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Very nice. I'm going to be doing something similar very soon. Thanks for the pics!

 

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This has me confused. You say the stock baffle sticks out a lot and that it sits lower with the wood, and I don't see how this gives you more mounting depth. Maybe because I've never seen it in person I'm missing something?

 

v- this is the rear speaker

this picture is comparing the factory baffels to the wood one you would make with 3/4" wood. the rear (magnet, or depth area) is not accurate, but the area where it sticks out past the mounting is accurate. (just not texture and color). This picture shows how much further the factory speaker sticks out than the alpines i've mounted. So the answer is, No, there is no problem trying to replace your mid panel. Your new mounted speaker and baffel will not stick out that far. infact it will not stick out further than the factory's mount. --v


See how these factory speakers stick out beyond where the baffel screws in.

On the wood baffel i created, where you screw it in, is almost the furthest part out., as where he factory sticks out a lot beyond. I hope these pics help. the rears are paper and paper surrounds. they are like 5.6" the fronts are about 6.5".

Because I used 3/4" wood, then the speaker sticks out 3/4" further than the car's frame (wher you drop the speaker/speaker mount in).

 

I'm still not getting this....In that comparison picture, with the stock baffle, the stock speaker screws in about 1" out of the door. With the wood baffle, it's screwing in about 3/4" from the door. How does this increase the mounting depth? How are you not losing that 1/4"?

 

I guess I wasn't clear. By using the baffle piece that comes with the Alpine SPS-170A's, you are not gettin as much mounting depth. that piece is only about 1/6".

Mounting depth doesnt matter with the stock speakers, they are what they are. But your after market speakers range in sizes. So by using the 3/4" wood baffel you will help extend mounting depth compared to just putting the speaker in against the aluminum frame. It also beats using the plastic baffel that comes with the alpines, and any other speakers.

 

ohhh....maybe you meant this...

Were you thinking of taking the factory speaker out of that plastic piece and using the plastic baffel for your aftermarket speaker? If that is what you had in mind that won't work. The plastic baffel around the speaker is apart of it. You cannot seperate them. Customized for a scion. Therefore you have no choice expect to make your own baffel, use a small flemsy baffel that comes with your speakers you buy, or somehow mount it directly to the aluminum frame (which most likey wont work because it is a big fram for a speaker).

 

Thanks Morris! Those pictures really help a lot.

I have put off the audio project for so long because I always worried about the mounting depth. Now, with those info, I will go ahead and get my hand dirty real soon.

By the way, what head unit is that? How's it compare to the stock in term of bass output?

 

Great pics and thanks for the info.
I didn't know that the stock speakers and the baffles are together.

 

That head unit is a JVC El Kameleon. The biggest differerence is the Bass. The stock HU has a +5 or +6 bass, I forget. Well Min ehas +6 bass plus a BBE 1, 2 and 3 which adds tones of Bass. I love it. SAdly, they do not make this Head unit anymore. You can find it on ebay for around 70ish dollars. I bought it as best buy for 275.00 i believe. I will be gone for the weekend, if u have a questin i can answer it when i get back. GOod luck with installation

 

If you want a more In depth walkthrough, check out this fourm. IT IS GREAT. I actually followed this fourm and learned from this. It is by Chris Schemp, he's a great guy. Knows his ____.

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=45238

 

THAT explains it right there lol. I thought this was supposed to give you more depth than the stock baffle. I got it now. Thanks for the explanations.

 

Nice job, bet it sounds a whole a whole lot better!

 

Now I thought that toyota makes a bracket especially for aftermarket speakers. I dont remember which site I saw it on but I will try and dig it up.

 

These are all I found...
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-e2o7FWU...3200&I=142SAT6

 

yeah but I think that is just a mounting bracket....I don't think it gives any additional mounting depth.

 

mjmorris: (or anyone who knows) Do you happen to know approx. how much mounting depth there is with the 3/4" baffle? I'm trying to figure out if I'm limited to certain speakers because of mounting depth. Or is there plenty of room for just about anything?

 

Lots of room. The stock depth is 3.3" add the baffel say 3/4" and you have a little over 4 inches.