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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 09:45 PM
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ok, i just bought a B&M short shifter and was wondering,are there any benefits for installing the rubber bushings for the cage,rather then just installing the shifter and keeping the stock rubber bushings,ive read that it only raises the cage,but is that the only difference..
Old Nov 12, 2010 | 09:55 PM
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Raising the cage keeps the cables better in alignment. When you move the pivot ball up on the shifter (part of shortening the shifts) you place the bottom of the shifter closer to the floor, which puts the cables at more of a bend.
Old Nov 16, 2010 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by engifineer
Raising the cage keeps the cables better in alignment. When you move the pivot ball up on the shifter (part of shortening the shifts) you place the bottom of the shifter closer to the floor, which puts the cables at more of a bend.

so thats bascially the only benefit
Old Nov 16, 2010 | 11:02 PM
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Rubber bushings? They should be aluminum cage risers, I also had bought aluminum cage bushing replacements(Corsport) for the factory rubber bushings and decided with using the B&M supplied ones. Some parts of the install that slowed me down: The shifter cables, twisting the lock nuts was easier with gloves, there's not much room to turn them to take them out. Have a dremel ready to cut at the lock washer for the pin that goes through the cage up top. Also in the instructions they list some bolts at 13mm, well some were actually 12mm, so have a 12mm socket on hand also.
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Originally Posted by gp1817
so thats bascially the only benefit
Kind of an important part rather then a benefit.
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x2 If it wasn't needed, they wouldn't have spent the time to design and include it along with the shifter. It'll also keep keep any movement of the cage to pretty much nil, not that we would know how much the cage moved during shifts being covered up and all.
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Yeah, docs are hard plastic, takes a bit of mush out of the shifts since the cage is more rigidly attached. And yes.. I guess making sure everything functions correctly is the "only benefit"

Docs cable bushings are also delrin. You trade a very small amount of vibration being transferred to the shifter by replacing the rubber bushings, but it is so tiny I am not even sure I could tell the difference in mine. I did, however, notice a nice improvement in shift feel.

That washer took me all of 30 seconds to remove, without ever taking out the dremel. It is pretty rigid, so tapping a small screwdriver behind it to open up a gap, then tapping a larger one in and prying broke it right off. The kit will either come with one or you can get one at a hardware store to match.

If you didnt buy the whole cage assembly, there is no need to remove the shift cables from it. You can unbolt the cage and lift it to put the new bushings under it.
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