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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by WingspanTT
Dude that suxks.. is it a 2005 or 2006? I just bought my car 4 days ago, so far I am very happy - don't make me nervous!!!!

So Leo... how much you want for that intake/strut bar/LEDs? If you are serious about selling them PM me.
Dont be nervous. Many people either dont have a problem or something that is easily fixable. If possible I would try different dealerships if I am having problems with getting something fixed. In my jobs Ive dealt with dealerships all over the country. Smaller ones tend to be more personal and likely to value you as a customer and help if possible than larger ones. Larger ones usually have better equipment and are more likely to have seen a car with the same problems. I bought my car at a large dealer and had a great experience. They were nice and helpful no problems at all. A friend of mine went there had the same salesman and it was horrible for him and he went somewhere else. So just make sure they treat you how you want and go with your gut instinct on them.
Old Oct 12, 2005 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by emiller
Originally Posted by WingspanTT
Dude that suxks.. is it a 2005 or 2006? I just bought my car 4 days ago, so far I am very happy - don't make me nervous!!!!

So Leo... how much you want for that intake/strut bar/LEDs? If you are serious about selling them PM me.
Dont be nervous. Many people either dont have a problem or something that is easily fixable. If possible I would try different dealerships if I am having problems with getting something fixed. In my jobs Ive dealt with dealerships all over the country. Smaller ones tend to be more personal and likely to value you as a customer and help if possible than larger ones. Larger ones usually have better equipment and are more likely to have seen a car with the same problems. I bought my car at a large dealer and had a great experience. They were nice and helpful no problems at all. A friend of mine went there had the same salesman and it was horrible for him and he went somewhere else. So just make sure they treat you how you want and go with your gut instinct on them.
I disagree, I think you should be nervous. Be very nervous. The quality process control is just NOT there with the tC. You just gotta remember that all the rattles, creaks, pops come later on, typically months into ownership. So if people tell you their tCs are fine and not to worry, follow up with those same people in a few months, and you will be surprised at how many of them turn into disgruntled tC haters like me. When my car was problem free, I use to come on here and defend the car against anyone who would say anything negative about the tC. Now I just want to shift my car into neutral and push it off a cliff.
Old Oct 12, 2005 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by LeoLeonardo
My little bugger, on the otherhand.. well.. if all goes well I'm either gonna have a Toyota Tacoma X-Runner or a 2005 WRX I love my tC but meh, I'm just getting burned a bit too much.
Just to mention you should do vast amounts of research into the WRX, everybody I know who has one has problems on a monthly basis, it's seems they are put together with scotch tape.
Old Oct 12, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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[quote="Captain_tC"]
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I dunno where you get your facts from, but most new cars I come across dont rattle. I typically hear rattles in older cars, which is understandable.
Every car rattles, my dad's 5 series rattles worse then my car, my mom's Benz Rattles, My bro's 3 series rattles, my gram's Chevy Rattles

ALOT of new cars rattle. lol
Old Oct 12, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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I dunno where you get your facts from, but most new cars I come across dont rattle. I typically hear rattles in older cars, which is understandable.
Every car rattles, my dad's 5 series rattles worse then my car, my mom's Benz Rattles, My bro's 3 series rattles, my gram's Chevy Rattles

ALOT of new cars rattle. lol
You just got some fked up cars then because the only car that rattles in my family is my aunts honda mini-van which is 10 years old. Other than that we have toyotas, mitsu, nissans, even crappy ___ fords that dont rattle. You should have higher expectations from your cars, otherwise manufacturers will continue to make crap. If you think new cars are suppose to rattle, then youve got some issues.
Old Oct 12, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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the problem with threads like these is that for every tc that has these problems, theres probably 100 or more that dont, and you just dont hear about it as often.
Old Oct 12, 2005 | 09:55 PM
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The sunroof not closing was as simple as putting teflon lubricant on the slide where the glass pushes on the plastic to push the deflector; also in the pivots. The headliner rattle is from the retractable sunroof visors. I'm probably going to take those out since I'm going Carbon Fiber sunroof and moonroof, perhaps custom headliner. I do notice a hatch noise but havent checked it out yet. I'm sure some dynamat will solve some road noise that I do get from the rear.

What do you expect from a new car, it's going to have problems. If your going to customize it, then fix it and be done. Otherwise, gripe at Scion and get a new one or a perhaps a GM before they go bankrupt.
Old Oct 13, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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the problem with threads like these is that for every tc that has these problems, theres probably 100 or more that dont, and you just dont hear about it as often.
Yeah and for every pinto that blew up, there were probably 100 that didnt. So whats your point? Bottom line is its still a bad design with the potential for something to go wrong. Your tC may not rattle today, but just imagine how it will sound 5 years from now.
Old Oct 13, 2005 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain_tC
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Originally Posted by WingspanTT
Dude that suxks.. is it a 2005 or 2006? I just bought my car 4 days ago, so far I am very happy - don't make me nervous!!!!

So Leo... how much you want for that intake/strut bar/LEDs? If you are serious about selling them PM me.
Dont be nervous. Many people either dont have a problem or something that is easily fixable. If possible I would try different dealerships if I am having problems with getting something fixed. In my jobs Ive dealt with dealerships all over the country. Smaller ones tend to be more personal and likely to value you as a customer and help if possible than larger ones. Larger ones usually have better equipment and are more likely to have seen a car with the same problems. I bought my car at a large dealer and had a great experience. They were nice and helpful no problems at all. A friend of mine went there had the same salesman and it was horrible for him and he went somewhere else. So just make sure they treat you how you want and go with your gut instinct on them.
I disagree, I think you should be nervous. Be very nervous. The quality process control is just NOT there with the tC. You just gotta remember that all the rattles, creaks, pops come later on, typically months into ownership. So if people tell you their tCs are fine and not to worry, follow up with those same people in a few months, and you will be surprised at how many of them turn into disgruntled tC haters like me. When my car was problem free, I use to come on here and defend the car against anyone who would say anything negative about the tC. Now I just want to shift my car into neutral and push it off a cliff.
So you got a ____ty car. Lemon laws are around for reasons like this. Get rid of it. Many of us do not problems and some of you do. My car had 2 rattles. I fixed both myself and it only took a few minutes and no money. Both were just loose parts. I now have 12k miles and no rattles for probably the last 2k.
Old Oct 14, 2005 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by emiller
Originally Posted by Captain_tC
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Originally Posted by WingspanTT
Dude that suxks.. is it a 2005 or 2006? I just bought my car 4 days ago, so far I am very happy - don't make me nervous!!!!

So Leo... how much you want for that intake/strut bar/LEDs? If you are serious about selling them PM me.
Dont be nervous. Many people either dont have a problem or something that is easily fixable. If possible I would try different dealerships if I am having problems with getting something fixed. In my jobs Ive dealt with dealerships all over the country. Smaller ones tend to be more personal and likely to value you as a customer and help if possible than larger ones. Larger ones usually have better equipment and are more likely to have seen a car with the same problems. I bought my car at a large dealer and had a great experience. They were nice and helpful no problems at all. A friend of mine went there had the same salesman and it was horrible for him and he went somewhere else. So just make sure they treat you how you want and go with your gut instinct on them.
I disagree, I think you should be nervous. Be very nervous. The quality process control is just NOT there with the tC. You just gotta remember that all the rattles, creaks, pops come later on, typically months into ownership. So if people tell you their tCs are fine and not to worry, follow up with those same people in a few months, and you will be surprised at how many of them turn into disgruntled tC haters like me. When my car was problem free, I use to come on here and defend the car against anyone who would say anything negative about the tC. Now I just want to shift my car into neutral and push it off a cliff.
So you got a ____ty car. Lemon laws are around for reasons like this. Get rid of it. Many of us do not problems and some of you do. My car had 2 rattles. I fixed both myself and it only took a few minutes and no money. Both were just loose parts. I now have 12k miles and no rattles for probably the last 2k.
Just wait, Im sure youll get more soon. I get complete new rattles every couple of months.
Old Oct 14, 2005 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain_tC
Originally Posted by emiller
Originally Posted by Captain_tC
Originally Posted by emiller
Originally Posted by WingspanTT
Dude that suxks.. is it a 2005 or 2006? I just bought my car 4 days ago, so far I am very happy - don't make me nervous!!!!

So Leo... how much you want for that intake/strut bar/LEDs? If you are serious about selling them PM me.
Dont be nervous. Many people either dont have a problem or something that is easily fixable. If possible I would try different dealerships if I am having problems with getting something fixed. In my jobs Ive dealt with dealerships all over the country. Smaller ones tend to be more personal and likely to value you as a customer and help if possible than larger ones. Larger ones usually have better equipment and are more likely to have seen a car with the same problems. I bought my car at a large dealer and had a great experience. They were nice and helpful no problems at all. A friend of mine went there had the same salesman and it was horrible for him and he went somewhere else. So just make sure they treat you how you want and go with your gut instinct on them.
I disagree, I think you should be nervous. Be very nervous. The quality process control is just NOT there with the tC. You just gotta remember that all the rattles, creaks, pops come later on, typically months into ownership. So if people tell you their tCs are fine and not to worry, follow up with those same people in a few months, and you will be surprised at how many of them turn into disgruntled tC haters like me. When my car was problem free, I use to come on here and defend the car against anyone who would say anything negative about the tC. Now I just want to shift my car into neutral and push it off a cliff.
So you got a ____ty car. Lemon laws are around for reasons like this. Get rid of it. Many of us do not problems and some of you do. My car had 2 rattles. I fixed both myself and it only took a few minutes and no money. Both were just loose parts. I now have 12k miles and no rattles for probably the last 2k.
Just wait, Im sure youll get more soon. I get complete new rattles every couple of months.
First rattle happened in the spring and the second was about 2 months ago. Neither came back yet and if they do Ill just fix them too. Both of mine were just caused by careless assembly but very easy to fix.
Old Oct 14, 2005 | 12:26 AM
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got the RS 1.0 in May. exactly one month later, the hatch rattle kicked in. about another month later, some other creaking/rattling sound distinctly different from the hatch rattle joined in on the fun (located somewhere in the mid to rear headlining i think). and now, i'm hearing the driver side door rattle (albeit faint at the moment). i'm friggin' ____ed at toyota. they're not known for this type of inattention to quality. and then to let us all languish here with an unfixable hatch rattle! HOW THE HELL CAN THIS NOT BE FIXED????? HOW CAN IT NOT BE INDENTIFIED??? we can land on mars but this can't be fixed?!?!? It makes me ape poop just thinkin about it.
they checked my passenger door (damn I got some stupid dealers in my area) THREE Times they checked it , I got told everything from NOTHING THERE TO CAUSE RATTLE , to it being the sunroof sunshade causing the door class to rattle (i have no idea what that is about) , THEY FOUND OUT THE REGULATOR wasnt even BOLTED UP TIGHTLY , What else hasnt been tightened down on this car ? Hmmm maybe the roof isnt tight since its still rattling after their Specialist looked at it and still didnt resolve the issue ,And yes the window regulator did cause a rattle from teh door .
Old Oct 14, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain_tC
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the problem with threads like these is that for every tc that has these problems, theres probably 100 or more that dont, and you just dont hear about it as often.
Yeah and for every pinto that blew up, there were probably 100 that didnt. So whats your point? Bottom line is its still a bad design with the potential for something to go wrong. Your tC may not rattle today, but just imagine how it will sound 5 years from now.
5 years from now i'll be in an s2000 or 350z or evolution, unless something else interesting comes in the 30k range. this is a cheap car, and with cheap cars some sacrifices need to be made to keep costs down. i'll gladly put up with a few rattles (which may or may not even occur) for all the neat little features i have in my car.

if your car has tons of issues, than go return it and buy something else or stop complaining.
Old Oct 15, 2005 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by cfusionpm
if your car has tons of issues, than go return it and buy something else or stop complaining.
You wanna give me the thousands of dollars in lost value if I do that?

Oh wait, you said return it, not trade it in, my bad. That's a good idea. I just hope the UPC sticker is still on the bottom of the car so they can scan it real quick and give me a full refund on my american express card.
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Call the number in my sig. Get your rattle fixed at a dealership.

Stop whining.
Old Oct 15, 2005 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Somnambulated
Call the number in my sig. Get your rattle fixed at a dealership.

Stop whining.
I did that already BOTH THE WHINNING AND CALLING THE NUMBER , doesnt do nothing . I know a group of trained monkeys with a bucket of bannanas would get more accomplished then the dealerships . AND YES THE POS IS GETTING TRADED OFF .
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From my experience, taking your TC in to a dealership to get the rattles fixed is a joke. My passenger door rattled terribly over small bumps in the road, a trip to the dealership resulted in the door still rattling and upon inspection I found that service techs supposedly fixed the problem by placing quarter sized padding pieces over 3 spots on the door. I bet they spent 5 minutes on the entire job. I know this is just one persons experience at one dealership, but it appears to me that if you want your TC fixed correctly YOU are going to have to diagnose the problem and fix it yourself.

On a seperate but related topic, I fixed my hatch rattle easily and cheaply. I bought a 1/4 inch thick rubber tubing from home depot about the length of the hatch struts, sliced the tubes down the middle and wrapped one around each strut. The tubing is thick enough to squish a little against the metal surrounding the struts when the hatch is closed. You should feel a little resistance when closing the hatch. Doing this has left my hatch rattle free for the past week now.
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Originally Posted by Captain_tC
Originally Posted by cfusionpm
the problem with threads like these is that for every tc that has these problems, theres probably 100 or more that dont, and you just dont hear about it as often.
Yeah and for every pinto that blew up, there were probably 100 that didnt. So whats your point? Bottom line is its still a bad design with the potential for something to go wrong. Your tC may not rattle today, but just imagine how it will sound 5 years from now.


I love blanket statements like this. Have you actually tried calling Scion?
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Originally Posted by Somnambulated
Call the number in my sig. Get your rattle fixed at a dealership.

Stop whining.
I did that already BOTH THE WHINNING AND CALLING THE NUMBER , doesnt do nothing . I know a group of trained monkeys with a bucket of bannanas would get more accomplished then the dealerships . AND YES THE POS IS GETTING TRADED OFF .
Good deal. Nice to have you on the boards, enjoy your next car. Bye.
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Just buy the new civic



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