I know this topic has been covered before so don't flame me for not searching, but I think that we have finally reached a point where there are enough aftermarket parts to help the TC reach that magic 200 hp number before forced induction. I'm just now at a stage where I have the money to start buying a couple performance parts for my car each month, and I'm going to document my build up. Although I do plan on getting the TRD supercharger, I want to see if I can hit 200 hp before I have it installed. So lets take a look at the planned mods and you guys tell me what you think about the feasibility of it. (keep in mind im talking about 200 hp at the crank on 93 octane at sea level, not quite that much hp to the wheels but close to it on the dyno)

Stock 2007 TC = 161hp/163ft/lb

mods:

Injen CAI
DC sports headers +14 to 18hp
PTuning S-pipe and exhaust

NST pulleys (CR-lite crank, wp & alt) +6 to 8hp

Alphawerks throttle body +2 to 4hp

Camcon vvt-i +10 to 15hp

Dezod intake manifold
+fuel rail, slightly larger +4 to 6hp
injectors
Walbro 255 lph fuel pump

Ported and polished head 5hp? 10hp?


Other mods reduce hp loss:

Energy Suspension motor mount bushings
Ingalls "stiffy" ETD
Royal Purple full synthetic

Drivetrain Additions:

ACT stage 2 clutch
Unorthodox 11.5 lb flywheel
Dezod stainless steel clutch line
Redline MT-90 fluid


The hp numbers for the bolt-ons are real world numbers, and even if you only take the conservative side you can hit 200hp. Now I know enough about what I'm talking about to realize that you don't just add all the numbers together and thats your magic total, but I am factoring in the "synergistic" effect you get from certain items like the camcon, which works with your other mods to squeeze out more hp (1+1=3 so to speak). And when you consider how much better flow you get from a ported and polished head combined with the elimination of power robbing engine movement, and throw in a decent clutch set-up to boot, you're looking at a realistic, reliable, civic si -smoking 200 hp with a lot of torque to back it up.

I know some people will disagree with me, but that's why I posted this because I want to hear opinions, as well as any hp options I haven't thought of (I'll kill you if you mention the Turbonator). I'm not 100% positive I have the magic formula, but im about 90%, so for all the die-hard skeptics out there, we will see what happens over the next 6 months as these parts get added!

 

...no where near 200 imo!

 

(Cartman voice) You shut your dirty Jew mouth Kyle! j/k bro, ok so back up your reasoning

 

all that has been done before not yielding 200 hp....if you want to hit two hundred, you have to get high comp pistons. But really...just go turbo!

 

You forgot stickers.

 

can the camcon be tuned like a piggy back because if not, you will need a ems!

 

You might be right, we'll find out but I'm still gonna do a little wishful thinking for now. I'm not trying to build a 300 hp beast, and I don't like turbo lag, so i'm gonna get the TRD supercharger, with the NST pulley at 9.5 psi I'll be happy with somewhere around 230 to 240 hp. Trying to keep it real and real reliable

 

here is the skinny on the camcon:

http://www.fastscions.com/Scion-VVTi...ontroller.aspx

 

dezod makes an intake manifold?

and why would you get an ETD and motor mounts when the motor mounts do the job of the ETD better in the first place?

I don't personally see how larger fuel injectors on an N/A setup are going to help either since I highly doubt we are maxing out our stock ones (i don't know much about the topic but it just seems illogical to me). Maybe if you had a built motor or something but again i'm not terribly educated on the subject..merely speculating.

Not to mention I can't seem to find a site that carries this "alphawerk" throttle body you're talking about..only a couple of old threads on SL..not to mention i've never heard of someone ever owning it.

Also are you even aware how are engines work? this isn't a vtech motor..vvti isn't something you can play with and get power out of..you don't adjust "vvti" in our car like you would with vtech..it's basically just another fancy way of saying "hey look i'm just another piggyback ecu on the market!"

oh and I wouldn't buy from a site that can't even proofread there own descriptions..god I had a hard time reading page from the link you posted.

 

Dezod intake manifold huh? lol.

 

Whoops Im sorry, I meant Descendant Racing intake manifold

 

lol i was like WHAT THEY MAKE One and looked it up before i got to the bottom of this thread and realized he meant descendant haha

 

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=265462

Let's keep it to one thread on this, no?