i have pics of a late 80's civic hatch with 2 d16's one for the front one for the rear lol its extra weight probly negated the extra 75hp the extra engine added but it lookd relay cool and didnt seem to hard to make lol but then again looks can be deciving

ill post up the pics when i get home

 

Thanks Toast

I have looked the car over fairly well, done some baseline measurements, up front and all the way back to the rear end it appears no major sheet metal work is involved.

The wiring, etc, is just wiring, can be a bit tough to figure out but nothing that cannot be done with some patience and at least a bit of experience as well.

There are two tricky things involved in this, front crossmember fitment as in which one to use, tC or RAV4 and how much surgery it will take, this could get into some serious engineering issues. Plus the other associated bits and pieces like steering rack, etc.

Now the second and probably more difficult tricky part, the rear end, ours is not setup to have a differential and axles, would have to use the RAVs setup(or something else), this could be far tougher than the front end. It would probably take jacking up a complete unit and seeing what has to be trimmed away to make it fit. Then designing and fabrication of mounting points, this is where things start to really get intersting. Made simpler if you cage the car but what if you do not want a cage? What about the ride height of the design, may not go low enough, anybody for a lifted tC?

Let's not forget a few other bits and pieces, like the driveline, ok, plenty of room down the middle of the car, is that where it runs in the RAV or off to one side requiring a modified tunnel, another structural member, very important one at that, more engineering??

Next, gas tank, it would have to be replaced with one from another vehicle that happens to fit or a custom one made.

Bottom line, should this be done, could it be done, would it cost a fortune to have done, would it take a ton of time and still alot of money to do it yourself???

Answer is YES to all the above, if you have the resources and want to this then do so. It is not about money or time, it is about doing something unique and having a passion for it, it is about living, not about dreaming or pretending;)

(At CES on year there was a PT Cruiser drop top, long before it was a factory option. That was just the tip of the iceberg, it had a whacked out over the top audio install, that was not the big deal either. It was RWD, now we are getting somewhere. The big deal was the Viper motor up front

I thought this was a pretty absurd way to spend one heck of alot of money, not something I would have the slightest interest in doing myself but yet, it still deeply impressed me that somebody had the heart to take this on and make it happen;)

 

Welcome Rick,
those of us that have been around on the other boards are well aware of the seemingly endless wealth of knoweldge you provide us

 

Sure, I do have to admit though, I only know what I know and there are many that know more than I do on many subjects. What I have learned over the years is I do not have to know it all, I just need to find the info for what I am currently involved in, which has been many things over the years. Most true enthusiasts that are at the top of the game love to share their knowledge with those of use with the passion to learn and put that into effect.
That is how I am able to do the things I do, not that I am some guru of any sort whatsover, I have met plenty that blow me away with thier knowledge(as long as backed up with experience, armchair qtr backs can talk all day and be usefull but you much dig deeper and find those that do it, not just talk it;)

Rick

 

If I'm going that far, what's a little frame chopping?

 

the tC wasn't ment to have 600hp either, IT CAN BE DONE!

 

You're 18, use that money for college instead of a pontless conversion. So what if it is RWD...you won't get the benefits of RWD in normal driving in city and highway.

 

touché!

 

If this is something you are honestly serious about then it would probably be cheaper to contact a race shop in your area and have them build a tube frame yo tour specs. Have a mold made off your current car and have it done in fiberglass. It will probably end up being a bit cheaper if not around the same cost and will definitely be safer and more structurally sound that chopping up a new car that is your daily driver.

 

So here we all are giving this guy grief about wanting a RWD tC, and then this comes along:

SCION RWD tC BY TITAN MOTORSPORTS DEBUTS AND WINS AT NHRA’S 51ST U.S. NATIONALS
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=82283

So... I know I feel sheepish, my baaad.
Good luck, Overdose!

 

c'mon now, that scion is backed by a good company, and made for races... ____ it doesn't even have the original motor in it anymore, it's got a supra motor.

that shouldn't even be considerred a scion tc anymore imo. it's jsut the body of a scion.

we are only giving grief to this guys cuz if he really meant he's on his way he wouldn't be asking us.

 

So I wonder if they got a quote for that work off an internet chatboard? And it doesn't even look like a tC. it looks much more like their other Toyota drag car on their site...

It's not that it can't be done, but if you're trying to budget the money for it, it'll never happen.

 

It sounds outlandish, but the focus guys have been doin it for a while. You can even buy a kit now. Check out that link.
http://www.ford-v8-focus.com/
Now, I don't think it would be worthwhile to make a tC RWD just for the sake of being RWD. These guys are putting some big HP in these foci. Unless you have the means and the knowhow to at least help with a project like this I'd forget about it.

 

A guy that works in my building has one of those. Its got the supercharged mustang engine and stuff. Nice work but probably a ton of work and money unless you have a machine shop and access to free or discounted parts like he did. You are probably better off just going race car style with a tube frame and put the tC body on that. Its sure to be more reliable probably easier and cheaper too than cutting and fitting that stuff in a real tC.

 

And don't forget, someone's already done all the hard work on the Focus, if you can buy a kit. Most peeps on a tC will be starting from scratch...

 

It you do all that work put the biggest most powerful engine you can find in and and have one hell of a sleeper too. That guys Focus looks like a regular SVT Focus until you hear it run or see the hood up. At first I just wondered why someone would put huge rear tires on a fwd car.

 

emiller, I've seen one of these v8 focuses in dearborn actualy. it's a red zx3 that looks totaly stock except for some huge meats on the back. It pulled up to me on telegraph and I heard a big rumbling v8 so I looked around and the only car around was a focus. talk about WTF, the ultimate sleeper.

 

As for the RWD tC.

Not really a tC but cool it is named one, lol!

Dang fine debut to say the least!!!!!!!!!


Rick

 

make it all wheel drive NOW that would be fun then put the 2.5 with a turbo and slap a sti stika on it

 

i read a review about the focus with the svt msutang engine the s/c one they said the more weight you put in it the faster it can go lol becosue its so light it doesnt get ____ for traction.

they also said you cant drive that far with out it over heating around town is cool but dont expect them to make it from newyork to cali with out taking alot of breaks