Don't go trading that TC for that new Cobalt SS just yet..
05-14-2008, 10:33 PM
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all american based manufacturers are feeling the heat to try and keep up with japanese-based auto makers. They are all trying new and different things...Dodge gives lifetime warranties, A Ford Fusion is based off a Mazda 6 chassis. Chevy is offering a cobalt SS with cool options for a great price. Kudos to them, because I can't wait to see what toyota will counter it with to try to win buyers back.
05-14-2008, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace418
all american based manufacturers are feeling the heat to try and keep up with japanese-based auto makers. They are all trying new and different things...Dodge gives lifetime warranties, A Ford Fusion is based off a Mazda 6 chassis. Chevy is offering a cobalt SS with cool options for a great price. Kudos to them, because I can't wait to see what toyota will counter it with to try to win buyers back.
Chrysler along with lifetime warranties are now offering a guranteed 2.99 a gallon gas offer.
Ford is coming out with "EcoBoost" which is a twin turbo motor platform giving good gas mileage AND performance.
Toyota is continuing with the leading hybrid car and friendly well selling cars like the Camry.
Every car make has its own way to make money and get people. I wouldn't say "american cars are simply junk" because thats not really true, theres good and bad from ALL makes. This isn't simply an anti-american deal.
06-04-2008, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by bigwillystyle23
id never own a chevy. EVER i dont like american cars and i especially dont like chevies.
06-04-2008, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by silverstreaktc
call me crazy, but would this motor be similar to it's sister? (the saturn sky redline motor)???
06-04-2008, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bigwillystyle23
Originally Posted by saibot
Originally Posted by bigwillystyle23
id never own a chevy. EVER i dont like american cars and i especially dont like chevies.
hahaha you can hate when youre broke down on the side of the interstate.
06-04-2008, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Spicy_McHaggiz
Being a former cobalt owner and someone who has educated themselves quite a bit on the new car, I'll shed this light. (P.s. I'm not just any ol n00b)
The SS T/c makes 260 hp. To the person mentioning the sister car the sky redline, it uses the exact same 2.0L Ecotec motor (LNF engine code). Also GM has already expressed they will NOT offer stage kits for this car, reason being (or at least as many believe) the transmission is maxed out at the 260 hp output from the factory. Meaning the stock tranny cannot handle much more HP to it without breaking. This would not be good for GM to up the HP and break trannies. Another reason for no stage kits would be tunning. With Direct Injection the tuning is more advanced then that of the EFI used in many cars today.
It will be a fast car yes, but making it faster might be a bit of a problem
The SS T/c makes 260 hp. To the person mentioning the sister car the sky redline, it uses the exact same 2.0L Ecotec motor (LNF engine code). Also GM has already expressed they will NOT offer stage kits for this car, reason being (or at least as many believe) the transmission is maxed out at the 260 hp output from the factory. Meaning the stock tranny cannot handle much more HP to it without breaking. This would not be good for GM to up the HP and break trannies. Another reason for no stage kits would be tunning. With Direct Injection the tuning is more advanced then that of the EFI used in many cars today.
It will be a fast car yes, but making it faster might be a bit of a problem
06-04-2008, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by draxcaliber
well...that makes it alittle boring now doesn't it?
tell me, does it use the sametransmission from the sky/solstice which i am pretty sure is the same transmission from the colorado/canyon?
anyway, i have to say, it does sound like a really awesome car performance wise from the factory, but since it is already at the limits...i guess it would be good for people who just want performance and don't want to do it themselves. and ofcourse...GM quality doesn't mean $h!t these days.
tell me, does it use the sametransmission from the sky/solstice which i am pretty sure is the same transmission from the colorado/canyon?
anyway, i have to say, it does sound like a really awesome car performance wise from the factory, but since it is already at the limits...i guess it would be good for people who just want performance and don't want to do it themselves. and ofcourse...GM quality doesn't mean $h!t these days.
06-04-2008, 01:22 PM
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My final words on the cobalt are this. Its a very fun car to drive, relibility is very good, and I never had any problems with it. I owned three of them. The first I wrecked it and the second one was stolen from me, and the current one I have runs like a champ for the regular beetings it gets and I neglect it alot( I go underway a lot). Yes the interior looks like rubermade built it, but the skinny is I don't care when I'm running away from wrx, si, type-s, and evos. I'm not saying this car is unstopable, but any car has the potential to beet any car and reason people buy cars is because they like the car point blank. I own a 86 corrola and I love the car as much as my cobalt. that is my preferance. I like the way the tc looks and the cavernous back seat room( the naughty things I could do with that much room), but I'm content. As far as the very bias comments only proves the lack of knowledge and shows ignorance. To get an unbiased opinion look at the edmunds reliability report, and you will see that scion is bellow chevy, but toyota is in fourth place only beaten by honda, cadillac and lexus. Reliability is only deteminded by the consumer and age group. Here is a link http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test .
06-04-2008, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/editors/0804_sccp_jay_chen_boost_vs_flow/compressor_map.html
Here ya go. I found an article for any of the retards who think boost is a more important factor than CFM's.
It's also another reason why Honda's are the best vehicles on the market to boost. MAP > MAF.
Go ahead. Try to argue. You'll get be quiet within 2 posts.
Kthx.
Here ya go. I found an article for any of the retards who think boost is a more important factor than CFM's.
It's also another reason why Honda's are the best vehicles on the market to boost. MAP > MAF.
Go ahead. Try to argue. You'll get be quiet within 2 posts.
Kthx.
And if you want to know what it's like to put a LOT of power in a front wheel drive car...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl5vY4aPiBs
06-04-2008, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RenegadeSS
Originally Posted by Spicy_McHaggiz
Being a former cobalt owner and someone who has educated themselves quite a bit on the new car, I'll shed this light. (P.s. I'm not just any ol n00b)
The SS T/c makes 260 hp. To the person mentioning the sister car the sky redline, it uses the exact same 2.0L Ecotec motor (LNF engine code). Also GM has already expressed they will NOT offer stage kits for this car, reason being (or at least as many believe) the transmission is maxed out at the 260 hp output from the factory. Meaning the stock tranny cannot handle much more HP to it without breaking. This would not be good for GM to up the HP and break trannies. Another reason for no stage kits would be tunning. With Direct Injection the tuning is more advanced then that of the EFI used in many cars today.
It will be a fast car yes, but making it faster might be a bit of a problem
The SS T/c makes 260 hp. To the person mentioning the sister car the sky redline, it uses the exact same 2.0L Ecotec motor (LNF engine code). Also GM has already expressed they will NOT offer stage kits for this car, reason being (or at least as many believe) the transmission is maxed out at the 260 hp output from the factory. Meaning the stock tranny cannot handle much more HP to it without breaking. This would not be good for GM to up the HP and break trannies. Another reason for no stage kits would be tunning. With Direct Injection the tuning is more advanced then that of the EFI used in many cars today.
It will be a fast car yes, but making it faster might be a bit of a problem
06-04-2008, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RenegadeSS
My final words on the cobalt are this. Its a very fun car to drive, relibility is very good, and I never had any problems with it. I owned three of them. The first I wrecked it and the second one was stolen from me, and the current one I have runs like a champ for the regular beetings it gets and I neglect it alot( I go underway a lot). Yes the interior looks like rubermade built it, but the skinny is I don't care when I'm running away from wrx, si, type-s, and evos. I'm not saying this car is unstopable, but any car has the potential to beet any car and reason people buy cars is because they like the car point blank. I own a 86 corrola and I love the car as much as my cobalt. that is my preferance. I like the way the tc looks and the cavernous back seat room( the naughty things I could do with that much room), but I'm content. As far as the very bias comments only proves the lack of knowledge and shows ignorance. To get an unbiased opinion look at the edmunds reliability report, and you will see that scion is bellow chevy, but toyota is in fourth place only beaten by honda, cadillac and lexus. Reliability is only deteminded by the consumer and age group. Here is a link http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test .
