2200fire please do me a favor and stop comparing the two motors. You might was well start comparing the motor to the Mitsubishi 2.4 single over head cam. The GM is a quad four design and is completely different from the tC design. People have stopped comparing the xB 1.6 to the honda because they learned that its not the same!!! Please stop comparing.

 

i'll just put it this way. torque is a friend.

until u hit around 300 ft lb's u shouldnt say no to it.

sC keep it at 2.5 increasing it to 3.0 wont help THAT much ona s/c but it will help ALOT on a turbo.

but going to 3.0 will hurt the s/c low end more than the increase on high end.

I still stick with my first statement.

N/A go 2.25 or 2.5 s/c go 2.5. turbo go 3.0 or more.

 

well we'll just see ho wdynos come out. i may be wrong but i still say 3 will give the sc a much better curve.

i dont know how you can say that a n/a and a sc motor should have the same xhaust piping. that just doesnt make sense to me. with the amount of air the sc pushing plus the extra hp, it would need more exhaust pipe than a N/A hook up so why woul dyou give the 2 the same size pipe?

i dunno guys well just see :D

 

This topic is going to be moved to power hungry for better effect.

 

damn guys, no where in his post did he ask about performance of a dual exhaust.....and no where did he ask if it was rice. what if i think the word rice is rice? does that make you rice? opinions, its something that people can't ever seem to get on the internet, yet they are so easy to try to press theirs on other people. it would probably look good....if you didn't know any better, you'd see the tC with dual exhaust and say damn, thats a good looking car....and that dual exhaust is badass. so what if it isn't functional, neither is paint.....is paint rice? hehe.

 

So you would want a tC with a non working dual exhaust set-up? Whats the point of that? Why waste the money?

 

DemonEyez



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best way to do exhaust for tc i think is. cut off muffler entirely. route straight pipe or muffler to the driver side and exit it there. shorter route less bends.

if someone were to make a aftermarket like this it should be pretty good.





I AGREE... my 3 section 2.5inch cat-back machine bent straight pipe is goin on this thursday but it's gonna be like the original set up out the passenger side with stock tip so not to look like a coffee can or anything... can't wait to hear, see, and feel the results...

 

a dual exhaust is still functional even on a 4 cylinder. I guess I am a 400hp rice boy!



Is it going to do much on a sub 200hp car, nope. Will it help when turbocharged over a single exhaust, definately.

 

I really wanted to try the dual exhaust on the tC just like the MR2 style, but the frame of the car lowers the pipe. And than after that there is not enough room for dual mufflers after the pipe come back up after the frame. If the frame wasn't so low I would have been able to make the dual exhaust set-up.

 

dual exhaust is for suv`s, v8`s and supras... not for hondas(except the s2k), toyotas, and especially not tc`s

 

Ahem, a dual exhaust doesnt belong on a NA 4 cylinder, hows that. I can show proof with dyno charts of just how much a difference a dual vs single makes on a turbo mr2, not to mention the dual is quieter since it has smaller piping.

 

in some cases people don't care if the dual exhaust has a HP gain or not. They just want that dual muffler look.

 

my post wasn't directed at you....it was directed at the people that automatically jumped on the original poster, without backing anything up. i mean, if the exhaust just wouldn't work at all, and make the car run like crap...then sure he should probably not go that route. but, if it just doesn't help his performance like a free flowing exhaust should, well thats up to him.....he just said it would look good.

 

umm.... NA = Naturally Aspirated.... meaning no forced induction.. meaning no turbo/supercharger... you just said in a nutshell "a dual exhaust belongs on a stock tC. I can show you dyno's how it helped a turbo, which uses the free'er flowing exhaust for power"


- ok, I think the dual exaust looks VERY VERY good and as long as it wasn't loud, pingey, poppy, farty, or DECREASES performance, I'd buy it in a heartbeat - of course if I could get a single-outlet exhaust that INCREASES performance, I'd jump on that one first.

Ricer = A State of Attitude. Following through on ideas of increasing performance by means that cannot increase performance. eg. "Type-R" stickers, 10' wings, 200lb 25'' rims, aluminum "dummy" brake rotors, SpinnarZ-CapZ for aerodynamics etc. - AKA - Moron, wannabe, derelict etc (Copyright Otocan® 2004)

 

ok a dual muffler single exhaust produces no power gain over a single muffler single exhaust the only way a dual muffler could produce more hp was if it was a true dual system as in a v motor or a inline six. cuz basically for a set of pipe you need approx 3 cyls or more not 2 cyls.(unless it it an awesomely powered vehicle a.k.a. e30 bmw m3 that s14 motor is awesome but no way does a tc motor compare.) . oh and dual exhaust on a supra only works for the mid section there is no need for dual muffler or at least not two mufflers one on each side. maybe a dual canister muffler but not two seperate mufflers one on the drivers side and one on the passengers side. and no 400 hp 4cyl needs dual exhaust. at least not a turbo dual. and id say the biggest exhaust pipe youd need on a tc with turbo or s/c would be 2.5 youd only need bigger if running a huge 600hp turbo and then youd cap out at 3 inch. alot of people go with too large of pipes on their cars. on a n/a tc i'd go 2.25 for it's displacement and it would keep some tq. for a sc id probably keep 2.25 maybe 2.5 if over 300hp and with turbo id use 2.5 . we all have our opinions on such things and this is mine dont flame either agree or disagree but keep it to yourself if you want to hate. all i know is for a fact that way too many people get too large of pipes and either lose power , lose low end tq , or waste money on an exhaust system that is bigger than they need. end of story.

 

Dual exhaust on a tC topic revived!!