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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 08:48 PM
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Quick question. This may just be me being paranoid, but does everyone's tc take a little while for the engine to start up? I used to have a 99 Ford Escort and when I turned the ignition the engine started up almost instantaneously. But since getting my tc it seems like it takes a little longer. Maybe I'm just not used to it. Anyone else notice this?
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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Ummm my tC seems normal to me. What do you mean it takes a while to start up? Like 2 minutes? Be specific =o)
The tC i think usually takes a couple of turns of the motor and then starts. Usually lemme see....turn the key, gauges calibrate, push clutch in, then i start it..the car starts 4 seconds i believe.
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 09:05 PM
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search is your friend. topic covered before.
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 11:23 PM
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i think toyota's take like a second longer to start. i thought the same on my friend's celica at first and then when i got my tc, i noticed the same thing. jus my opinion. my bro's rsx starts up almost instantaneously.
Old Jul 22, 2005 | 02:01 AM
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i notice this too. i got kinda worried... this probably a new thing for toyotas (2000 and up models), because my parents 93 camry and 97 tacoma starts instantly.


or it must be the immobilizer system, making difficult to start. idk just guessing...



and if you have not guys noticed, all toyota manual transmission makes a clicking/crunching noises when you shift or wiggle it side by side...
Old Jul 22, 2005 | 02:09 AM
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My family has a corolla and sienna and they both take a while to start up. I think all toyota products do that.
Old Jul 22, 2005 | 02:22 AM
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Yes i noticed this too. My civic starts intstantaniously even with 208k mi on it but the tC takes 5-6 cranks. Weird. They say that most of the damage to your car happens during starting because theres no oil in the top end. Maybe they made it take that long on purpose to allow the oil to start pumping? Just a wild guess.
Old Jul 22, 2005 | 04:58 AM
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(remote ignition)

I forgot...it's been so long since I started my car manually...
Old Jul 22, 2005 | 02:54 PM
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If I remember correctly, it is due to the type of fuel system.

I believe its called a "returnless" type because any fuel that is routed to the engine is burned, whereas older cars had a loopback to the tank for the fuel the engine didn't need. This is also the reason why we can't use fuel pressure regulators.

In short, when the car sits for a couple hours the fuel lines drain, and you have to wait a couple extra cranks for the fuel to repressurize the line.
Its not a problem, its a feature.

**note: working from memory here, don't hate if some of my details are a bit simplified.
Old Jul 22, 2005 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by kileil
If I remember correctly, it is due to the type of fuel system.

I believe its called a "returnless" type because any fuel that is routed to the engine is burned, whereas older cars had a loopback to the tank for the fuel the engine didn't need. This is also the reason why we can't use fuel pressure regulators.

In short, when the car sits for a couple hours the fuel lines drain, and you have to wait a couple extra cranks for the fuel to repressurize the line.
Its not a problem, its a feature.

**note: working from memory here, don't hate if some of my details are a bit simplified.
Plenty of other cars, including the RSX which starts quite quickly, use a return-less fuel system. So, I doubt this is the cause of the longer starts. But, I agree it's not a problem, just how the cars are.
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Yeah mine does the same thing, my hondas used to crank right away, but the engine kicks about 3-4 times on the scion before it turns all the way over
Old Aug 1, 2005 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dmxsoulja3
Yeah mine does the same thing, my hondas used to crank right away, but the engine kicks about 3-4 times on the scion before it turns all the way over
There is nothing to worry about unless it takes more than 6 rotations to crank. It is normal for the tC to crank 3-4 times to start. This is to allow the cylinder chamber to pump fresh gas & oil into the chamber. Usually, leaving gasoline in a cylinder and undergoing atmospheric changes causes the gas properties to break apart. Hence the evaporation of gas in an open container. The fume you smell from gasoline is the actual breakage of molecules. Gas itself is easy to smell because it moves very fast and expands rapidly. Therefore in the DIS Ignition, most likely 2 of the 4 chambers have the exhaust valve open or partially open for the gas to escape and lose its combustible properties.

Why do you have to prime/choke weedwackers and lawnmowers when you use them for the initial time? Because of lossed combustible bonds in gas left in the cylinder
Old Aug 1, 2005 | 05:21 PM
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I had noticed this on my tC. My Legend that I traded for the tC started faster. My '99 E-350 starts faster. My '89 Accord starts instantly. I'm pretty sure my T-Bird starts quickly, but I haven't driven it in a long time, so I'm not sure.
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 02:59 AM
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all toyotas do that. my friend brand new corrolla has like a little pause right b4 it starts
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 04:41 AM
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both camrys my parents have/had and highlander do the same.
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