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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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I seem to see it just fine... maybe their server was down due to storm?
No, I think it just hit the daily bandwidth limit. I can see them fine now, too.
i like the red to blue light combination. I hvae it in my computer and I think i'll look great in the tC as well (Red near the center and blue near the door)
Old Aug 13, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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It's not LEDs that are the problem, it's the cheap-___ set up that only uses ONE LED. C'mon, that's less than $10 worth of equipment plus a plastic tube. I paid around $20 for dual 12 inch LED tubes that have about 10 LEDs each. Mounting is simple. Randode's kit will blow away the stock setup too. and costs less than half as much. You'll like your lights even more when you DIY than that cheesy factory setup...

Old Aug 13, 2004 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TheScionicMan
It's not LEDs that are the problem, it's the cheap-___ set up that only uses ONE LED.
They're actually 4 LEDs on each side. Still, they're not bright enough. I ordered some yellow cold cathode tubes and I might either replace the LEDs and "light guide" tubes or just leave the LEDs and add the cathodes. I'll post when I get my parts and start working on it...
Old Aug 14, 2004 | 02:12 AM
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It's actually one LED on one side of the tube. That is the cause for the weak glow. If I had known to expect it.. .i wouldnt have paid $250 for it. The cup holder is fairly decent though. It's only 2 LEDs. Here's a better pic.



Notice that this is complete darkness. Very disappointing.
Old Aug 14, 2004 | 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Caedel
It's actually one LED on one side of the tube. That is the cause for the weak glow. If I had known to expect it.. .i wouldnt have paid $250 for it. The cup holder is fairly decent though. It's only 2 LEDs. Here's a better pic.
I installed my own factory amber LED lights. The little pods that attach to the ends of the clear tubes have four lights in each. I don't know why the blue ones would be different, but it is possible. If you want to check, they pull right off of the clear tubes. Pull one off and take a look.
Old Aug 14, 2004 | 05:21 PM
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You are correct. 4 LEDs into the tube. I also noticed there is a white part on the tube. Does it matter which end of the tube the LEDs are going into? Also, where should the white part face? (upwards?)
Old Aug 14, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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i would like to know where the LEDs are mounted in the cupholders. My sister didnt get the LED option cause i knew i could do it a lot cheaper and better. Can someone tell me where they mounted the LEDs inside the cupholders?

Thanks!
Old Aug 14, 2004 | 08:38 PM
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WOW guys!! the pics that you put up of the LED's, i can't even see them!! are you sure they're the factory ones you paid $250 for??? cuz i got those, and damn my are like 100 times brighter than that! and sorry, i don't have a digital camera to post up pics. but if you go on the scion website, and check out the LED accessory, and you see the blue pic, mine are a little bit brighter than those.
Old Aug 14, 2004 | 09:18 PM
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The reason the pictures are so dark is because these people aren't using the flash, for obvious reasons - use the flash and you won't see the lights.

Something you guys might try is this: change the exposure timing on the camera to MUCH longer. This will allow the film to be exposed to much more light. You may be able to get a much better representation of what you really get. You should also be able to do this with a digital camera, but I am unsure.

I currently have the Amber package. I will agree that the lights are not very bright, but they still have a decent effect, especially the cup holders. Also the auto-dimming mirror seems to have an amber light emmitting from the bottom of it. I don't know if this is standard or not, but I am glad it matches.

I have a couple questions though, maybe something Randode can answer. Is it possible to install a cold cathode setup with the LED wiring I already have installed? Would this be something as simple as splicing the wires and reconnecting them? Could I install multiple cathodes to the same wires?

I am not much of an electronics person, don't understand the actual workings behind it, but I can follow directions and if this is easy then I may replace the LED tubes and add additional cathodes.

I also understand there is no Amber or Orange cold cathodes but that you can get white cathodes with orange tubes. I would like to add more to the setup but also want to use the existing switch setup.

Thanks for any help.
Old Aug 14, 2004 | 10:26 PM
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Here are the LEDs in the cup holders:


Here is the LED rod after turning it so the white was facing directly away from the seat. It does glow better but still not bright.

Old Aug 14, 2004 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by casandra01
Just to check, anyone here ever hear of anyone getting in trouble for having cold cathodes and it being too bright in the car? I know the cathodes are brighter but can cops argue too bright? I can imagine a cop pulling me over arguing its a distraction or reducing my view or whatever and giving me a ticket to that extent. Any thoughts?
I got a $85 ticket for it. stupid cop. it doesn't hurt anything. back then I had 11 cold cathode tubes, 3 in the very back in the crease of the seat, 4 under the seats and 2 under the dash, this was before I had my tint. so i don't know how it would be now.
Old Aug 14, 2004 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mazrim
I have a couple questions though, maybe something Randode can answer. Is it possible to install a cold cathode setup with the LED wiring I already have installed? Would this be something as simple as splicing the wires and reconnecting them? Could I install multiple cathodes to the same wires?

I am not much of an electronics person, don't understand the actual workings behind it, but I can follow directions and if this is easy then I may replace the LED tubes and add additional cathodes.

I also understand there is no Amber or Orange cold cathodes but that you can get white cathodes with orange tubes. I would like to add more to the setup but also want to use the existing switch setup.

Thanks for any help.
you could splice cathodes into the LED wiring, or install my kit along side of the LED kit. This would allow you to have your choice of which color you want to have on.
Old Aug 15, 2004 | 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by randode
you could splice cathodes into the LED wiring, or install my kit along side of the LED kit. This would allow you to have your choice of which color you want to have on.
I thought about doing this with the cathodes, so that I could have different colors on at once. My brother spliced cathodes in with his the factory led lights.

Randode's kit makes it really easy to install and is pretty good, it comes with everything you need. you can also get the cathodes froma a store or on line, but then you need to do some work by yourself. You also need to get some other stuff.

either way it cathodes are the way to go. it just depends on how much work you want to do by yourself and how capable you are.
Old Aug 15, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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Hi,

Originally Posted by randode
you could splice cathodes into the LED wiring, or install my kit along side of the LED kit. This would allow you to have your choice of which color you want to have on.
Could you send a rough drawing of how your kit is installed? Where do you get the power? How much interior do you have to take appart?

Also, what I would really like is to have it hooked up so it turns on when you unlock car or open doors.
Old Aug 15, 2004 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by legoandy
Also, what I would really like is to have it hooked up so it turns on when you unlock car or open doors.
Wire 'em into the dome lights. You'll probably have to wire them in directly (maning you have to pull off the dome light assembly and run the wires under the headliner) since the "on/off/door" switch is up there. Actually, I take that back, if you could find the wire that's hot when the door is opened (that would fee to the dome light assembly) then you could splice it there.
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