subies normally have a really blatty exhast note cuz of the double 2 cyl effect.. my old bmw sounded great . most german cars sound good no matter how many cylinders they have.

 

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my dad's 1997 subaru legacy wagon has a flat 4... and it sounds like crap.... :D

but anyways, Muscle cars have a completely different sound then imports and other high performance type vehicles... you can obviously tell them apart on the road, muscle cars have a more choppy, banging type of exhaust note, while imports and such have more of a clean, low, more bass-like tone... so i say everybody's statements are false..... you cannot compare muscle car exhausts to import car exhausts.... i mean, you could make them all sound the same if you wanted, but people don't do it because they want you to be able to tell it apart...duh... i talk to a varied group of people and all the truckers and muscle car guys say that our exhausts sound like farts... but i talk to many import and high end guys that say that muscle car exhausts sound like someone threw firecrackers in a tube... it all depends on user preference.... and well.... so my point is, please don't try and compare muscle cars with imports or high end cars... your arguements just go nowhere in the end....it's like comparing.... cats and dogs... both domesticated, widely popular 4-legged animals.... but people like cats for completely different reasons than people like dogs... if you have no idea what i'm talking about.... then please disregard all previous statements...

Some people may like the "ricey" (i hate that term.... it's especially insulting because, well, it kind of gives all us Asian guys who mod cars, a bad rep) sound that the coffee can mufflers from autozone produce... they sell that useless crap becuz people will buy it... so some people obviously like it.... it's all about supply and demand,.... if there was no demand for fart-can exhausts then companies would adjust accordingly and stop making them... so.... how about we start a boycott against all "rice" sounding exhausts and then maybe the "high end" companies such as TRD will tune their products to better suit the market's demand for better, less fart-like sounding exhausts....


boycott fart-can exhausts!

(sorry i went on.. and on...I'm wired on caffiene and i'm writing a paper for economics and that's all i can think about right now...and i'm sorry if i said anything that offended anyone)

 

Yes you can. For one, they are both exhausts.

Exhausts for the street are mostly a cosmetic item. Sure, they can increase horsepower by preventing the engine being bogged down by a restrictive exhaust, but the exhausts of today are many times more efficient than the exhausts of the 70s and 80s where car makers desperately tried to reduce emissions without having a firm grasp of the technology. Case in point would be the efficiency of early catalytic converters versus what now is stock on cars today. It is a huge difference. Exhaust design also is given greater consideration than what was on cars 20 or even 10 years ago. Take for example the stock piping on the tC. It is 2.125." For a car that has 160 horsepower stock, that is plenty for normally aspirated applications.

So if the horsepower gains are negligible, why do people continue to add on elaborate exhausts in the aftermarket? It is a need to differentiate, to show people that their car isn't stock without telling them. Of course from this we get people who are taken to exuberance. If 3" is better than 2" then 4" must be better than 3." Exhausts become less and less efficient as they deviate from their design parameters. Volumetric efficiency suffers. Proper design is needed to have a pressure wave that won't over scavenge the engine. But, I digress.

Why is it that such large exhausts were never applied to the cars of the 60s and 70s? It is in large part because such exhausts are a fashion item designed to go along with the looks of a car. Import cars have defined a particular trend of automotive styling. When people refer to something as "JDM," it is usually does not refer to how a particular car comes from the factory in Japan, but rather how people style their cars in Japan. That is what people try to emulate in the US.

Muscle cars and import cars both have had their distinctive styling trends throughout the years. Exhausts are a component shared by both the import car and muscle car groups who wish to stylize their car.
aznJ wrote:

Some people may like the "ricey" (i hate that term.... it's especially insulting because, well, it kind of gives all us Asian guys who mod cars, a bad rep)


Please read http://www.riceboypage.com/faq/#racist . Rice does not refer to the owner of the car, but it refers to the origin of the maker.

Other than that you've made some good points and I do agree with you wanting to boycott the "ricey" sounding exhausts. Manufactures only will make what they believe they can sell at a profit, so unless they receive feedback, they will continue to manufacturer what they consider "popular."

Oh and please don't end every sentence with an ellipsis "..."

 

There is a beautiful (and real) 356 running around Saratoga Springs, NY...it belongs to an older guy whose license plate reads "NO FAUX". The car sounds so very nice when he gets on it...one of the nicest 356's I've seen...but then again it's a fairly affluent community and there's lots O' nice cars running around.

 

Bad ___ man! I had a 2001 VR6 Jetta with a Neuspeed... it sounded hella nice. It would be great if I could achieve that wonderful throaty German pitch with my tC and a nice fat catback.

 

You'll have to start out by adding two more cylinders...

 

EXACTLY It's a freak'n 4 banger there is no way of making it sound any different than all the other 4 bangers without some major $$$$$$$$$$$

And what's so bad with that sound anyway?? If you don't like it do a motor swap and convert it to rear wheel drive. Say 4.3 V6 or SBC mini tubs and a Ford 9 inch

 

ohhh it sounds so riiicee...... well guess what... you got an import.....geezz

get a hot rod and stop complaining


to be rice is to use the word rice

 

Uhhh... it's ricey because it's a Japanese car. If you want non-ricey, get a damned Ford or Veedub.

 

I think they are one of those ppl that are all about domestics, then made a transition to import... now they are confused..... I like some domestic dont get me wrong, i just prefer an import.

 

Actually, a good amount of people manage to make riceburners out of Focus's, Jetta's, Cavalier's, and Neon's.

 

I hate ricey exhaust, but wanted dual exhaust on my old car (99 Cougar). I put dual magnaflows on it and it sounded great. No high pitched ricey sound, but no deep sound either - can't get that w/ a 170hp engine!

 

I own a 1984 porsche 944 and for a four cylinder the exhaust sounds really nice. Low tone and not too loud. Got a Tc because I like being able to mess with my ride without having to put a mortgage on my house to afford it. I think the idea of changing the exhaust from only the cat back is just a ploy from the manufacturer to make a few extra bucks off car mod enthusiasts. Hopefully someone will have a better solution in the future. Being woken up at three in the morning by an awful fart noise eminating from some riced out p.o.s down the street just sucks.

 

Found this while looking for stuff for a Monte Carlo. I laughed.. but only because I can actually say I've done/thought some of these things. And I think I've seen all of them

http://www.hotrodders.com/t50008.html

 

see what i mean, everybody has a definition of rice and its just getting old. To call some one rice when they are rice themselves.

Some people even think that putting any aftermarket parts on a stock daily/street car is rice

and by using rice, your pretty much judging someones preference and saying that yours is better.

its all about Respect......

 

Actually my custom exhaust on my MR2 is a VERY nice sounding exhaust. It's not overly loud, and it is VERY deep. It is built around a Magnaflow exhaust muffler. The MR2 exhaust note has won a number of exhaust awards over the years, and if I remember right I think twice at NOPI. The one everyone should probably be looking at is the one that has been posted on this board a number of times. I have not heard it, but it basically uses the same muffler so it should sound pretty similar.

 

No, simply put, adding a mindnumbingly loud, tinny exhaust on a car and acting as though your vehicle now has 450 hp is rice. Adding mods to your car that are performance enhancing and, at least, somewhat tasteful is being a car enthusiast. I love my new Japanese vehicle and believe it to be a far better car overall, I like being able to go from city to city without the fear of a breakdown. I just think that car tuner culture has produced a large group of people who couldn't care less about how a car performs or looks as long as they think they are NOTICED. I think it can be agreed that some mods are just tasteless. And the jerk in my neighborhood falls in to that "rice" catagory, imo.

 

Doesn't necessarily have to be a 6-cyl. + to get that nice throaty sound.. I actually despise most Hondas (used to be a German car person).. but when I had my Si hatch, I used a K&N Typhoon intake and a Skunk2 exhaust and the thing sounded really nice. I must say I was quite surprised. I really think in most cases it's all just a matter of what you put on the car, not the car itself. A $90 fart can exhaust from advance auto parts is gonna sound ricey no matter what you've got under the hood... it's simply a matter of the quality and type of mods done on the car.

 

I just think some people over use the word "rice" when applied to cars. They get out of context to what it really is. People have made it into their own definition. Oh well though, to his her own.

 

Exactly!