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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 10:35 PM
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Default GReddy Scion tC..

Here are 2 pics of the GReddy tC, not to mention news about the Nitto tC

http://www.urbanracer.com/articles/a...asp?a=1155&z=2

Cant wait for that turbo kit!

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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 10:40 PM
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Wow, I've seen some of jotech's cars they are nice, esp the Candy Red Supra. and the tC doing 500hp! thas crazy!

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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 11:01 PM
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Can't wait to see the many items that will be available for the tc after sema... when that happens I'll really have to look for a full-time job to pay for stuff!
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 01:31 AM
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i want the turbo kit!!!
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 02:41 AM
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wow I just got a boner reading that... :twisted:
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 02:45 AM
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wow...500hp. This week will not go by fast enough for me to see the results of SEMA!!!
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 03:28 AM
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I am considering selling my amp so I can have even more money for this stuff... It's an 800 dollar amp so hopfully I can have enough where when spring comes I'm loaded and ready to go.

I just wanna boost the car, throw on some wide wheels, and boost the hell out of it lol
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 07:29 AM
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wow...500hp. This week will not go by fast enough for me to see the results of SEMA!!!
man, sleeving the block and all the other stuff they had on the Nitto Tc will probably run you in excess of 12 grand to do. Spec V motors are pretty decent stock, but wont handle much boost unless de-stroked to a 2.2 or 2.4 because of the weak rods..i feel the same issue coming up with the Tc, but with alot, and I mean ALOT more aftermarket support.
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Kenny and his crew cranked out an est. 500HP (est.) from a fully built 2.6 liter engine – punched out from the factory 2.4 L spec. Using AEBS iron sleeves, Arias forged pistons, a REV valvetrain, Cunningham connecting rods, and a ported and polished head the tC has kept the neighbors awake in Garland, Texas.
the nitto scion has been a whole 15 minutes away from me this whole time! when SEMA is over, i'm gonna swing by their shop and see if it is chillin there. i could only dream of them letting me ride in it. i couldn't imagine riding in a scion tc with 500 hp, i would instantly nut myself.
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 10:29 AM
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jesus 500hp tc? almost kind of a waste with fwd.

250 is plentiful enuf for me.
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by thatoneguy
Originally Posted by ScummyMcOwnage
wow...500hp. This week will not go by fast enough for me to see the results of SEMA!!!
man, sleeving the block and all the other stuff they had on the Nitto Tc will probably run you in excess of 12 grand to do. Spec V motors are pretty decent stock, but wont handle much boost unless de-stroked to a 2.2 or 2.4 because of the weak rods..i feel the same issue coming up with the Tc, but with alot, and I mean ALOT more aftermarket support.
It will not cost 12 grand unless someone is ripping you the hell off.

I know the rods and the valvetrain are the weak point on the qr25de, but I'm not quite sure about the tC. Anybody know what the rod ratio is or if the internals are forged on the 2az?
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 12:56 PM
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i dunno but t is a 4 cylinder camry engine with diff gear ratios.
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my goal again is to get a turbo... and SPANK does SRT-4's and EVO's and STI's
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 09:31 PM
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yo all i want to know is when that turbo kit is hitting the streets...im hungry for a turbo so i can psssssssstttt...
Old Nov 1, 2004 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by thatoneguy
Originally Posted by ScummyMcOwnage
wow...500hp. This week will not go by fast enough for me to see the results of SEMA!!!
man, sleeving the block and all the other stuff they had on the Nitto Tc will probably run you in excess of 12 grand to do. Spec V motors are pretty decent stock, but wont handle much boost unless de-stroked to a 2.2 or 2.4 because of the weak rods..i feel the same issue coming up with the Tc, but with alot, and I mean ALOT more aftermarket support.
Weak rods? Compared to the SR20DE maybe, but its the ROD RATIO in the block that gives you problems when you wanna try and out do some Honda owner and rev the hell out of it.

RPM = Ruins People's Motors

Peter Cunningham's Real Time car runs a destroked Q and makes well over 250hp with a SCCA mandated rev limit of 8500rpm.

Make power UNDER THE CURVE forget PEAK POWER and turning a ton of RPM. Your not building a racecar here.

I haven't seen the Camry engine up close but its prolly open deck for the most part. Sleaving is just for safety and allowing a little more displacement.

$12,000 is a meaningless figure because you haven't factored in tuning, blowing the thing up because your buying parts based on catalog engine building and not a car built to suit YOUR NEEDS. Not everybody needs or wants or uses 500hp and its not practical for a street car. Even with a basic Greddy kit or TRD blower the car will be MORE than enough for most people out there.

I wouldn't call a 2900lbs car with over 200hp at the wheels, SLOW.

Both systems will be good enough for 300+hp when armed with the right support parts.

Forget about building a Dyno Queen, I know plenty of cars built right without number that would be considred impressive by the general public and they just eat up cars with higher peak power numbers. You have to fully understand what your dealing with here.

Once you understand that, then you build accordingly as much as you budget allows.

School's out....
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Originally Posted by dj4monie
I haven't seen the Camry engine up close but its prolly open deck for the most part. Sleaving is just for safety and allowing a little more displacement.
What's the difference between open and closed deck again?

That greddy kit sounds hot. Especially if it includes the emanage. I know of a lot of people using that on turbo civics and absolutely loving it
Old Nov 1, 2004 | 12:35 PM
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well i have a question. all this power is great and all but what about the tranny. no use in having all this power if you cant put it down.
Old Nov 1, 2004 | 06:43 PM
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wow...

the tC is beyond my imagination... 400hp ... 500hp? crazy. i would be happy with 200hp..hehe.
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Originally Posted by dj4monie
Originally Posted by thatoneguy
Originally Posted by ScummyMcOwnage
wow...500hp. This week will not go by fast enough for me to see the results of SEMA!!!
Man, sleeving the block and all the other stuff they had on the Nitto tC will probably run you in excess of 12 grand to do. Spec V motors are pretty decent stock, but wont handle much boost unless de-stroked to a 2.2 or 2.4 because of the weak rods. I feel the same issue coming up with the tC, but with a lot, and I mean A LOT more aftermarket support.
Peter Cunningham's Real Time car runs a destroked Q and makes well over 250hp with a SCCA mandated rev limit of 8500rpm.
Peter Cunningham's car Redlines at about 6700-6900rpm.

I wasn't talking about building a car to somebody's needs, I was talking about building a 500hp Scion tC. It will cost in excess of $12,000 to do that to a tC at this point. I didn't price anything out, but check it out on your own.

And it's not all about power under the curve. When you shift at redline, you will end up in the top of your RPM range, unless you have weird gearing and you race by shifting at 3000rpm when you have a 6k Redline (drag or circuit). Lets not get the whole HP vs. TQ debate going. I really dont understand what you mean by "try to outdo some Honda owner and rev the hell out of it" my car makes good power all the way to Redline, and its a given that a car with a higher redline AND more horsepower will beat a car with a lower Redline AND less horsepower top end. I had a 98 LS1 Camaro and that only Redlined at 5600rpm, and I never lost a race to any Type S, or Type R, or even the "all mighty" NSX, no matter how high they revved.

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(in other words, the new Civic).
I guess that's a compliment, right?



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