Im just curious to know how leniant dealers are with selling these. I was thinking about perhaps getting a left over 05. What have your guy's experiences been with purchasing them?

 

Good luck finding a leftover. The dealerships around here are running out of cars.

You also will have a hard time finding a lenient dealer. The can loose their Scion dealership if they don't follow the pure pricing guidelines.

 

right, what you said.

no. sounds good to me but, there was no harm asking this question.

the 2005 is 200 dollars less than the 2006. Sounds like a lower price to me.

 

I was only able to get a mere $50 under MSRP. I put in my order in February, right after Scion raised the MSRP by fifty bucks, but my dealer said he'd honor the old MSRP because he had been too lazy to take down all the old marketing materials in the dealership that had the old price marked on it.

I doubt you can catch a break on the MSRP. You're probably better off just asking for free swag, like pens, hats, keychains, mugs, etc.. that might be laying around.

 

If it counts. . . I only paid 15k for a new xB, Limited Edition (not a rs), floormats, intake, exhaust.

 

i don't think that counts.

 

I got my car for MSRP... but the dealer gave me the SCION SECURITY for free!!! HAHA. Well my tC came in a month late so they "felt bad" and gave me the alarm for free. That's what you get when you buy cars from the same saleman for years.

 

Just FYI....technically if Toyota catches the "giveaways" and a dealer not going with the pure price policy...that dealer will not get a Scion dealership when they decide to roll it out on it's own. Toyota comes inand audits the books for the Scion closely.

 

Yes you are correct, dealerships cannot go below the "pure pricing" MSRP.
However, you can talk them down on the extra parts. My TC came with TRD Suspension. They wanted 1500 extra and I talked them down to 1100 and saved 400 bucks.

 

Maybe I am crazy, but can't dealers go below the suggested MSRP as long it is what is posted at their dealership. This is obviously unlikely as it is hard to keep cars at the dealership at MSRP, but I think it -could- happen.

 

The dealers can POST and SELL for a price below MSRP, the just are not allowed, by contract with their supplier, to sell vehicles below THEIR posted prices.

(Most dealers appear to have the MSPR posted as THEIR prices, buta rare few seem to have higher or lower prices posted.)

Scion is trying very hard to make buying a Scion about the same as buying a quart of milk at the store. Different stores may have different prices posted for milk, but everyone who walks into a particular store pays the same price - no haggling for 10 pwrcent off or trying to get an egg for free along with the quart of milk.

There ARE special prices with Scions, for recent college or military IIRC, but that is still no different, really, than the special price on a quart of milk if you have a coupon... (And that still is not haggling one-on-one for 'best price.' It's an established, posted, normal 'deal' and not something where a customer gets an advantage in price over an essentially identical customer.)

Scion is simply trying to make purchasing anything Scion civilized...

(I want a "Scion Preferred Customer Card," good for discounts... )

 

yea they r hella strict with pricing...both for the scions AND a trade in...they wouldnt even negotiate the price for my trade in. we asked for more, n they guy said well if u want that i would suggest trying to sell it on ur own

 

thank you. if you hadn't said it i would have.

 

WHATS THE deal with military pricing? never heard about that discount before

anyone?

 

Yeah, but your are part of a dealership, Moriarty, I'm just a customer - if you say it it might just feel like 'the company line' whereas (hopefully) I can say it with no taint to the message. :D

What Toyota is trying to do with the sales practices they are insisting on with Scion, is to return the selling of cars to the way it USED to be before WW II...

Personally, I want to be able to walk into a dealership/store/shop selling something I want, and to be met by a 'fair price' - that is fair to both the seller and buyer.

I don't want to have to barter and haggle like I'm in some medieval market, where I have to pit my skills against those of someone who does it for a living. That's sending an amature up against professionals...

There is absolutly no reason why a car or truck can't be bought like a box of cereal or jar of olives.

Yes, it's a much more expensive purchase, but that's all the more reason to 'even the playing field' so that the pro's don't have ALL the advantages.

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For many years I was able to buy from dealership 'fleet' sales folks, and that was a more honest relationship.

Most of the time I'd choose a vehicle and it's accessories, then have an order typed up using the 'dealer invoice' price from the manufacturer.

We'd then subtract advertising and holdback (and whatever else) from that 'invoice cost' (the 'hidden profits'), add a fixed percentage dealer profit (that usually depended on my fleet buyer class), sign the order and shake hands.

X number of weeks later my nice shiny dealer-prepped vehicle would be waiting at the dealership, fresh from the factory and built to order, and I'd pick it up.

No hassles, no haggles, no 'special-deal-today-only-lemme-talk-to-the-manager' BS, just me telling them what I wanted, them telling me what the price was, and me buying it.

Buying my Scion was the closest to my old fleet experience I've run into - now if they could just lose that finance weasel, it would be even better, and closer to the way fleet worked.

You aren't a finance weasel, are you?

Just kidding. Scion is trying to do it right. I hope they make their point.

 

2eZee, I think there used to be a finance deal with military similar to the one offered college, but in looking at the Scion site right now I didn't find it.

Could be I was in error - could be it no longer exists - could be I missed it somehow.

Sorry I can't offer anything more than that!

 

tomas, is should sound better coming from you.... but, i am also a customer too. but, anyway.

i am not a financial weasel but, i think we may try to test pilot the straight sell thing. I will even be the scion finance manager. just one more step to getting the snakes out of the garden of eden

 

Per the dealer that I am buying my tC from, he stated they only make about $300 off the tC .. on other cars they tend to make several thousand and that's why there is room to haggle.. and you'll notice on most of the "special" sales the dealer has, in small print it says they keep all the incentives being offered by the manufacturer. which means they cut you a price break but still get paid..

 

they were absolute on MSRP and accessories for me, but i got an incredible $900 extra for my trade-in because i got it "at-a-glance"-quoted for that much more at a different toyota dealership.

 

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