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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 06:30 AM
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There's a chance that I'm getting a 5 spd tC, but before that I want to make sure it's FUN and GOOD.
(1)What I mean is that is it worth is? fun to drive compared to other MT cars?

(2) Good for a beginner? cuz i'm not very good with MT yet. I've been driving in my friend's MT honda accord once a week, it was pretty hard. Then yesterday I drove my other friend's Eclipse and it was AMAZINGLY easy and FUN, I don't know why but it's MUCH EASIER to shift without stalling or anything and it's FUN b/c of the power.

(3) Pls tell me more about the MT that I need to know, such as the problems, advantages or disadvantages compared to other MT cars.

I would really really appreciate it if any tC MT owners out there can answer my Qs, THANKS A BUNCH!
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 06:51 AM
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this is the first car that i am driving with a mt.... its alot different from an accord or an eclipse... its a pretty stiff clutch for not being a hydrolic one, and the gearbox is tight. the clutch grab point is pretty far out and close to the full release of the clutch which is amazing once you get used to it. first and second gear are short and speed limiting, quick shifting gears, but provide alot of torque to power you into the higher gears... i am really in love with this car
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 06:55 AM
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1.) its fun to drive
2.) its a toyota, so ur really not gonna have issues with the car, as long as u don't rag it
3.)very easy to drive for ppl who haven't driven manuals that long or often
you'lll enjoy it, its a fun car....hope u like it
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 04:48 PM
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i got use to it in about 3 hours

definetly worth it!

TheKnown and ScionBandit said it well
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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you need to test drive one... might not be so easy in GA but in CA there are so many dealers one of them is bound to have a tc (that was my experience)
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 06:10 PM
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so nobody is regreting that they got a MT instead of Auto? Does anyone that owns a 5 spd thinks they should've gotten an Auto instead? I need to decide that but I don't want to regret it. Pls give me your honest opinions! THANK YOU.
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 06:43 PM
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it is really fun to drive, you wont regret it, if you are a pro MT drvr.
1st and 2nd are too short and powerfull, this makes it diff. from other MT.
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by miraclecreator
so nobody is regreting that they got a MT instead of Auto? Does anyone that owns a 5 spd thinks they should've gotten an Auto instead? I need to decide that but I don't want to regret it. Pls give me your honest opinions! THANK YOU.
i was regretting ordering a MT since i live in the city, but after a little bit with the car I am glad I got it. no regrets.

just remember, it is a little different from other manuals with things like where the friction point is that could get you frustrated at first, but you will pick up quick.
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 07:41 PM
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this is the first MT car I've ever owned and I love it
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 09:59 PM
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I heard there's a clutch problem or something like that, is it true and is it a big problem?
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clutch problem??

ye, if u don't know how to drive u'll have one
Old Dec 13, 2004 | 12:56 AM
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no no, i mean i've read some posts regarding the clutch. Some said it has an issue for the tC. Like it's easily breakable or somethinkg. Nobody heard of that?
Old Dec 13, 2004 | 03:34 AM
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It shouldn't be, haven't heard of it, and like scionbandit said, it is a Toyota! I prefer AT, thats b/c I personally haven't drove a MT before, hehe, kinda sucks, after having a Mazda6 for a year, I wish I had a MTX, but we do have tiptronic sports transmission, so I'm happy!
Old Dec 13, 2004 | 05:24 AM
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You mean the Semi-Auto transmission? I heard that Mazda's Semi-Auto breaks VERY EASILY. (That's why I chose scion instead of Mazda, otherwise I would've gotten a Mazda3 instead.)
Old Dec 13, 2004 | 02:07 PM
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If the gearing was the same on the AT as on the MT and it weighed the same, then I would get an AT since it would accelerate quicker and would use less gas. I ended up getting a MT for my wife. She's used to it and I think driving a MT makes you a better driver.

Hear this though, the AT is the better choice! Not in the tC, but overall... It's quiet. It's fast. It's sophisticated. The newer ones have the same number of gears as an MT. You have engine braking too! Plus shifing betwean gears can be faster than MT (in the new AT's). Too bad that manufacturer's don't make performance AT's.

I'm an MT-person, but I would prefer an AT if it didn't weigh as much, if it had the same gearing as an MT, if it was computer controlled for performance, if it didn't take a second before the car actually accelerated (when pushing on the gas pedal), if it didn't control the amount of gas you give it for non-performance reasons (emissions for example), etc.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 12:12 AM
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Did you say the AT saves more fuel? Actually I think that's not true. I have read from many sites and magazine, and heard from many friends that MT saves more Fuel, mileage, it's faster, has more control, and it's FUN. That's y I would choose MT over AT unless the traffic here is bad, which it isn't THAT BAD, it's just occasionally. Thanks for the opinions tho!
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 02:39 AM
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I have driven AT's for 9 years now and the only regret I have about buying a MT is when I am stuck in bumper to bumper traffic, going upwards on a bridge or overpass ;) :D
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 03:41 AM
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Yup, those are the ONLY disadvantages to me also. Other than that, MT is better than AT in almost every way.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 12:46 PM
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I learned to drive stick on a tC - can't say that it was extra easy or lots of fun to learn - after about two weeks I was seriously doubting my choice, but since then it all got better. Now (after 5 months) I'm very happy and do not want to go back to auto. Now that I'm somewhat comfortable with the MT I drive my friend's cars and noticed that tC is on the tricky side - Corollas are much easier to drive and Mazda3 was even easier - I'd blame it on gear ratios, but it's just what makes tC so much fun.
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Originally Posted by miraclecreator
Did you say the AT saves more fuel? Actually I think that's not true. I have read from many sites and magazine, and heard from many friends that MT saves more Fuel, mileage, it's faster, has more control, and it's FUN. That's y I would choose MT over AT unless the traffic here is bad, which it isn't THAT BAD, it's just occasionally. Thanks for the opinions tho!
Yep, check out the specs. for the Scion tC.

Manual: 22 (City) / 29 (Highway)
Automatic: 23 (City) / 30 (Highway)

Newer automatic trannies are capable of saving fuel.



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