I found a HUGE flaw in our vehicle
06-14-2006, 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by kytc
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Mumm... I cannot active the cruise control unless my speed is 45 or above. I tried to active the cruise control while I am on 2nd gear, no luck..... 
06-14-2006, 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 06SuperWhite_SoCal_tC
The only way it seems this could happen is if you took it out of gear without pressing the clutch, then do what you said "press resume". Im going to try this and see what happens.
06-14-2006, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 06SuperWhite_SoCal_tC
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Mumm... I cannot active the cruise control unless my speed is 45 or above. I tried to active the cruise control while I am on 2nd gear, no luck.....
06-14-2006, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 06SuperWhite_SoCal_tC
Originally Posted by kytc
Originally Posted by tcBlue
Mumm... I cannot active the cruise control unless my speed is 45 or above. I tried to active the cruise control while I am on 2nd gear, no luck.....
So in order to reduce the possibility of rock chips and dust getting kicked up, I shift into third and set the cruise at 25. I have tried going slower, but if you try to decel 1mph with the cruise at 25, it automatically turns cruise off.
06-14-2006, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DonJuan
There is no way for a manual car to know if its in gear or neutral. I dont believe many or if any cars from factory can determine that or else remote start on manual transmissions would not be so taboo.
06-14-2006, 02:10 PM
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On cars with a lower rev limit in neutral, I believe the computer looks at road speed & engine rpm to guess whether you're in neutral or not. I don't believe (m)any cars have a physical sensor on the manual transmission to tell if it's in neutral or not (like a motorcycle does). I could be wrong though.
I would assume cost and the target market for the tC were among the reasons why it doesn't have this feature.
As DonJuan said, remote starts are shaky ground on manuals because if the neutral check does exist on a vehicle, it's all internal to the car's computer and no use to an aftermarket system.
I would assume cost and the target market for the tC were among the reasons why it doesn't have this feature.
As DonJuan said, remote starts are shaky ground on manuals because if the neutral check does exist on a vehicle, it's all internal to the car's computer and no use to an aftermarket system.
06-14-2006, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JocoJef
Originally Posted by DonJuan
There is no way for a manual car to know if its in gear or neutral. I dont believe many or if any cars from factory can determine that or else remote start on manual transmissions would not be so taboo.
06-14-2006, 02:38 PM
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I was thinking last night.... I know some cars dont let you rev past a certain RPM in neutral. A car that comes to mind is RSX-S which limits to 4 or 5 K (dont remember exactly) when t he car is in neutral.
06-14-2006, 02:47 PM
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Sorry, my other car was a Saturn SL2. For a remote start you do not need to bypass a neural saftey switch just the clutch at the time of start up. Your cruise would still work after that. It all depends where you connect it on your ignition switch.
06-14-2006, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Tomas
While slowing, in gear, with your foot off the gas, the ECU supposedly cuts off fuel to the engine (doesn't fire the injectors), so zero fuel is being used. The forward motion of the vehicle (inertia) is supplying the energy to keep the engine turning.
When idling with the clutch in or while in neutral, enough fuel has to be added to keep the engine turning.
P.S. Never 'resume' the cruise control with the transmission out of gear...
When idling with the clutch in or while in neutral, enough fuel has to be added to keep the engine turning.
P.S. Never 'resume' the cruise control with the transmission out of gear...
Most cars disengage the cruise when you depress the clutch too, not only when you hit the brake. Maybe the tC doesn't have the feature. Another possible reason to the author of this thread is; did you pull the tranny out of gear without depressing the clutch? That would for sure result in the same issue you had. That's also a baaad thing to do.
06-14-2006, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DouBLeJ16
Learn how to use cruise control, lol.
I know how to use cruise control. This was found by mistake. Dezod, I was using cruise and hit the cancel button on the cruise (pulling back on the stick) pressed the clutch and then shifted it into neutral, I was still coasting at 55+mph. I went to turn the cruise off but accidently pushed the stick up (resuming cruise control) and that sent my rpm's to red line. I just got back from Toyota, they said they are going to try to do this to another car and see if it gets the same results.
On the way to Toyota I was able to replicate this problem, but this time I caught the rpm's at 4k
Mechanic confirmed it was a flaw in the system as well. Only answer for right now is "Well you know about it now, just don't do it"
06-14-2006, 10:32 PM
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Your not supposed to have cruise control on when in N.
If you want the added decrease in speed for not being in a D gear then:
Turn off CC
Shift into N
to get back in,
shift into gear and then reengage cruise control.
If you want the added decrease in speed for not being in a D gear then:
Turn off CC
Shift into N
to get back in,
shift into gear and then reengage cruise control.
06-15-2006, 12:08 AM
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FYI, your engine wont "go boom" by bouncing off the rev limiter. The rev limiter is there specifically there to keep from damaging the engine by over revving. This seems like an isoalted issue that didnt and wont cause any problems for anybody in the future even if it is accidentally replicated. Whats the big fuss?
06-15-2006, 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Thermalzeal
Your not supposed to have cruise control on when in N.
If you want the added decrease in speed for not being in a D gear then:
Turn off CC
Shift into N
to get back in,
shift into gear and then reengage cruise control.
If you want the added decrease in speed for not being in a D gear then:
Turn off CC
Shift into N
to get back in,
shift into gear and then reengage cruise control.
Originally Posted by The_Instigator
FYI, your engine wont "go boom" by bouncing off the rev limiter. The rev limiter is there specifically there to keep from damaging the engine by over revving. This seems like an isoalted issue that didnt and wont cause any problems for anybody in the future even if it is accidentally replicated. Whats the big fuss?
