Anyone running this throttle body? Did it help...even a little bit?



http://www.importperformance.com/pag...E-BODY/TOY50MM

 

i didnt even know they made a aftermarket throttle body for xa/xb...........thanks for postin........ill be doing some research..........

 

thats what its all about

..no wait, thats the hokie pokie

ah whatever...

no problem

 

What are the stock specs? I may very well be interested.

 

actually El Prototypes had this for sale already and had idling problems so thye pulled it off the shelves!

 

thanks stylis.....no more research for me........pulled from is good enough info......on to the next........

 

Was it an El prototypes throttle body or this exact one?

 

whats the question? :?

 

I'm sure EL Prototypes had their own .. I run EL Prototypes overbored throttle body on my Corolla.... didn't notice much of a difference.. although I'm sure it helps with the turbo.

 

I was just wondering if the idling problems were with a different throttle body that was made by EL or with the one posted here?

 

oh, ok. Not sure if the one posted is tha same, but I know that our Throttle body is an oval design and EL Prototype had a problem with their design. So makes me wonder if the one posted is a circle design or an oval like the OEM one.

 

Iceman web site says that this fits the echo as well. Maybe I'll crash an echo forum and see if anyone is running this thing. Could be cool if it works.

 

So? Anyword? Yea or nay?

 

Have to admit that I did a quick Google for Echo sites a while back and didn't find anything. I'm sure they exist, but I didn't spend all that long looking.

Anyways, one thing I did recently read is that adding a larger throttle body is not always a productive mod unless the hole in the intake manifold is as large as the opening in the aftermarket TB. I'm not sure if this is the case, but it makes sense as the manifold would act as the bottleneck. Unfortunately our intake manifolds are plastic and enlarging/boring the hole might be impossible.(?) As far as I know there are no aftermarket IM for our engines (although the Blitz SC comes with one).

Also, adding a larger TB while having any exhaust restrictions might actually hurt performance. Not completely sure if this is true, but I read this in the Haynes guild to sport compact performance.

Here's a quote: "Don't even think about changing throttle bodies until you have removed all restrictions from the exhaust side of the vehicle... If you install a too-big throttle body now, and don't make your other modifications until much later, the interim period will find you with a low-rpm dog...."

So, at least from what I read it seems that a free-flowing cat or manifold back exhaust and header are definite precursor mods. Also, the plastic stock intake manifold might make any gains minimal at best. This mod seems to most productive for free-flowing engines that run at high rpm and need the extra flow to the TB.

Certainly not claiming to be an expert here, but from the initial research I did on this, that is what I came up with. Interested in what others think.

 

so after reading your whole post I would say thats a "nay" Thats the simple answer we needed! :D

 

 

Ok, so everyone has an opinion. But I thought the guy asked about that particular throttle body. If you have not bought one yourself, used it, or tested it on a dyno, you honestly have nothing to say. So please, someone that has bought, used or dynoed that iceman throttle body respond at some point.

 

WTF? Where have you seen anything posted here that has ventured any opinion on the Iceman TB? Lord forbid that we discuss the general merits and issues of installing a TB on a car forum. Damn bro.

 

Do you not see what the subject of the thread is? The guy didn't ask for opinions about any throttle body on the market. It's pretty specific. If you want to have just a general throttle body opinion forum, then start a new thread. Don't hijack peoples thread because you think other people care about some wild idea you have floating around in your head.

 

I bore throttle bodies mostly for Hondas. If you still have your stock exhaust and header, it won't do a thing. I know this from actual dyno experience I have been doing this for a very long time.
http://www.maxbore.com