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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 08:22 AM
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anyone know what country the tC will be manufactured in? and who designed the thing looks nice
Old Feb 29, 2004 | 04:00 PM
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If it follows the trend of the xA and the xB, it will be JAPAN!!! :D :D :D :D

I'm really hoping it is not going to be built in the usa...
Old Feb 29, 2004 | 05:59 PM
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I'm almost positive it will be made in Japan.

Anybody know which factory?
Old Mar 1, 2004 | 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by unrealii
If it follows the trend of the xA and the xB, it will be JAPAN!!! :D :D :D :D

I'm really hoping it is not going to be built in the usa...
I really do hate ignorant people like this guy. "I hope it's not made in the US." A car is a car. A car is the same anywhere it was built. "I don't care I don't like U.S. cars." This is like saying "I spend $150 on Jordans, but I'd never spend $1.00 for anything made in China." Check your lable next time. Jordans are still made in China and Toyota has been making cars in other countries besides Japan including the U.S. for some time now. Anyways you idiot, cars are made 90% by robots, so what does it matter where their made? I hope you don't buy a tC because that would devalue the rest of ours.

PS: You are an idiot.
Old Mar 1, 2004 | 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by KiKang
Originally Posted by unrealii
If it follows the trend of the xA and the xB, it will be JAPAN!!! :D :D :D :D

I'm really hoping it is not going to be built in the usa...
I really do hate ignorant people like this guy. "I hope it's not made in the US." A car is a car. A car is the same anywhere it was built. "I don't care I don't like U.S. cars." This is like saying "I spend $150 on Jordans, but I'd never spend $1.00 for anything made in China." Check your lable next time. Jordans are still made in China and Toyota has been making cars in other countries besides Japan including the U.S. for some time now. Anyways you idiot, cars are made 90% by robots, so what does it matter where their made? I hope you don't buy a tC because that would devalue the rest of ours.

PS: You are an idiot.
Ok, well last time I checked the cars made in the US tended to have more problems. Even the President of Toyota has stated this. He has said that the part providers for Toyota in the US have more defective parts then the Japanese Toyota part providers.

And by the way, I asked one of the operaters on Scion.com a while back and he said the tC would be built in Japan.
Old Mar 1, 2004 | 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by KiKang
Originally Posted by unrealii
If it follows the trend of the xA and the xB, it will be JAPAN!!! :D :D :D :D

I'm really hoping it is not going to be built in the usa...
I really do hate ignorant people like this guy. "I hope it's not made in the US." A car is a car. A car is the same anywhere it was built. "I don't care I don't like U.S. cars." This is like saying "I spend $150 on Jordans, but I'd never spend $1.00 for anything made in China." Check your lable next time. Jordans are still made in China and Toyota has been making cars in other countries besides Japan including the U.S. for some time now. Anyways you idiot, cars are made 90% by robots, so what does it matter where their made? I hope you don't buy a tC because that would devalue the rest of ours.

PS: You are an idiot.
And you're really adding value to this forum by making childish and inflamatory comments, right?
Old Mar 1, 2004 | 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by KiKang
I really do hate ignorant people like this guy. "I hope it's not made in the US." A car is a car. A car is the same anywhere it was built. "I don't care I don't like U.S. cars." This is like saying "I spend $150 on Jordans, but I'd never spend $1.00 for anything made in China." Check your lable next time. Jordans are still made in China and Toyota has been making cars in other countries besides Japan including the U.S. for some time now. Anyways you idiot, cars are made 90% by robots, so what does it matter where their made? I hope you don't buy a tC because that would devalue the rest of ours.

PS: You are an idiot.
Thank you for your very insightful and well thought out comment. Pablo xB, has stated the reasons for my opinion. I guess I should have been more clear, as I am obviously not the genius that you apparently are
Old Mar 1, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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Official statement from Scion:

"You are correct, the tC will be made in Japan at our Tsutsumi plant."

Rest easy folks. Or jump for joy. Or both.

FYI, the following vehicles are made at Tsutsumi as well:

Toyota Windom (ES 300)
Vista
Camry (JDM)
Corona
Caldina
Scepter
Prius

The plant is located in Toyota City (near many other Toyota plants) and opened in 1970. In October 1999, the Tsutsumi Plant became the first Toyota plant to achieve “zero landfill waste.” To further reduce the volume of waste, the goal of achieving “zero combustible waste” in 3 years starting from April 2001 was established.

No small wonder they make the Prius there.
Old Mar 2, 2004 | 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by KiKang
Originally Posted by unrealii
If it follows the trend of the xA and the xB, it will be JAPAN!!! :D :D :D :D

I'm really hoping it is not going to be built in the usa...
I really do hate ignorant people like this guy. "I hope it's not made in the US." A car is a car. A car is the same anywhere it was built. "I don't care I don't like U.S. cars." This is like saying "I spend $150 on Jordans, but I'd never spend $1.00 for anything made in China." Check your lable next time. Jordans are still made in China and Toyota has been making cars in other countries besides Japan including the U.S. for some time now. Anyways you idiot, cars are made 90% by robots, so what does it matter where their made? I hope you don't buy a tC because that would devalue the rest of ours.

PS: You are an idiot.
we are americans and most american workers are lazy and don't really take much pride in thinking about the end user (remember i didn't say all, so some do). people in other countries have a different work ethic. take the evo 8 released here in the states. the only part that has caused problems is a safety item installed here in the states. the problem was that it started to rust.
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Originally Posted by ikonXone
Originally Posted by KiKang
Originally Posted by unrealii
If it follows the trend of the xA and the xB, it will be JAPAN!!! :D :D :D :D

I'm really hoping it is not going to be built in the usa...
I really do hate ignorant people like this guy. "I hope it's not made in the US." A car is a car. A car is the same anywhere it was built. "I don't care I don't like U.S. cars." This is like saying "I spend $150 on Jordans, but I'd never spend $1.00 for anything made in China." Check your lable next time. Jordans are still made in China and Toyota has been making cars in other countries besides Japan including the U.S. for some time now. Anyways you idiot, cars are made 90% by robots, so what does it matter where their made? I hope you don't buy a tC because that would devalue the rest of ours.

PS: You are an idiot.
we are americans and most american workers are lazy and don't really take much pride in thinking about the end user (remember i didn't say all, so some do). people in other countries have a different work ethic. take the evo 8 released here in the states. the only part that has caused problems is a safety item installed here in the states. the problem was that it started to rust.
O.K.
Old Mar 2, 2004 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2003-10-16-toyota-cover_x.htm
"We have some concerns about sustaining high quality," allows Atsushi "Art" Niimi, CEO of Toyota Motor Manufacturing North America, in large measure because North American parts suppliers average 500 defects per million parts vs. 15 per million in Japan. But if it works, and Lexuses made here are equivalent to those from Japan, Toyota will have exported a major upgrade of its already respected production system.
If that difference isn't significant enough, I dont know what is
Old Mar 2, 2004 | 11:21 PM
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I am certainly not a blind US supporter, and I've never owned nor considered a dometic vehicle, but I hate to break it to you US bashers -- if you look at the assembly point for most of the Toyotas and Hondas sold in the US you'll find they're built here.

Toyota is bout to move Tundra construction to TX by the way. Foreign manufacturers (Honda, Toyota, Nissan, BMW, Hyundai and others) are close to having more assembly line employees based in the US than Detroit's Big Three.

You can't base quality assumptions on where a car is built anymore. If you did, and you went by the stereotypes being tossed around here, none of you would get near most Hondas, Toyotas or Nissans.
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I wonder why they jock american cars in Japan. Could it be because they suck and breakdown. Could it be that the grass is greener on the other side?
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Originally Posted by Yoshi
I am certainly not a blind US supporter, and I've never owned nor considered a dometic vehicle, but I hate to break it to you US bashers -- if you look at the assembly point for most of the Toyotas and Hondas sold in the US you'll find they're built here.

Toyota is bout to move Tundra construction to TX by the way. Foreign manufacturers (Honda, Toyota, Nissan, BMW, Hyundai and others) are close to having more assembly line employees based in the US than Detroit's Big Three.

You can't base quality assumptions on where a car is built anymore. If you did, and you went by the stereotypes being tossed around here, none of you would get near most Hondas, Toyotas or Nissans.
Whatever, dude. There are still plenty of "Made in Japan" cars to choose from. Oh yeah, that includes the Camry and Accord. They still make some in Japan, you know. And all of us that like our stuff to say "Made in Japan" are just expressing our opinion. That's just something we look for in a car, so chill out.

There is more than enough evidence to prove that Japanese-made cars are better than their American-built examples. I have found through lots of contact with others that Japanese-built Camrys are of higher quality than the American-made counterparts. This goes for the current generation as well.

Although Lexus recently opened a plant in NA to supplement RX production, it is written in their doctrine that "Lexus shall only be made in Japan." I think that speaks for itself. Once they move LS production outside of Japan I'll start giving you credit for your views. By the way, the Tundra in already made in the USA so I don't know what point you're trying to make about them moving production to TX.
Old Mar 3, 2004 | 02:26 AM
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My last car from Detroit fell apart, and was recalled about 8 times, mostly from poor workmanship. If you know about Detroits Ford plant, you'll find out alot of crappy labor comes from there. Just another example of shotty american work ethics.
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Had a 99 Honda Accord that had problems from pretty much the first week of ownership.

Thought that the Japanese manufacturers were losing their touch especially after the constant dissarray of valve timing, warped rotors and other BS. Found out that after I traded it in for an RX-8 it was actually made in the good 'ol USA from the VIN.

Maybe the robots may have built the car but the humans that kept them tuned up sure done f@cked up.

Not saying it was necessarily because it was a US built car but definitely gives you food for thought.
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Had a 99 Honda Accord that had problems from pretty much the first week of ownership.

Thought that the Japanese manufacturers were losing their touch especially after the constant dissarray of valve timing, warped rotors and other BS. Found out that after I traded it in for an RX-8 it was actually made in the good 'ol USA from the VIN.

Maybe the robots may have built the car but the humans that kept them tuned up sure done f@cked up.

Not saying it was necessarily because it was a US built car but definitely gives you food for thought.
That's weird, because I own a `99 Accord V6, made in Ohio, no problems what so ever. Other than regular required maintenece, I haven't had any issues. Forget about the country of assembly, take into account the quality of the manufacturer. You can say workers from X country are better than Y, but don't think that the corporate parent is going to allow their merchandise to suck. They have QA guidelines and that will determine the quality of your vehicle.

Blanket statements...sheesh!
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Speaking from personal experience, i use to own a brand new, a Japan built 91 Accord lx, and US built 93 Civic.
Japan vehicle have better built quality overall (One example)by having less tolorent in missalign body panel. Next time when you see a civic, pay attention to how the trunk align with the rear quarter. (Check also the hood gap...etc)

If all car are built the same, then why bother paying more for a "German" car? BTW: German "Ford" have much higher built quality than Domestic built. For example: Ever seem a Escort Convertible? (One sweet ride) :D
How to read a VIN
1st character- Identifies the country in which the vehicle was manufactured.
For example: U.S.A.(1or 4), Canada(2), Mexico(3), Japan(J), Korea(K), England(S), Germany(W), Italy(Z)
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Blanket statements...sheesh!
But in this case that blanket statement is true. By the way, C&D slammed the Civic with regard to quality and build. Not to mention all the problems the new Accords are having.

<------- ____es me off. :twisted:
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I'm not saying you don't have a right to prefer anything. Like I said, I've never even considered a domestic brand vehicle regardless of where it was made. I just don't like generalizations that's all. Personal preference.

Sorry if I offended you, wasn't my intention. If it makes you feel any better I was thrilled when Volvo announced they were moving production of the new S40, since it was well know that the factory for the 00-03 model was below Volvo's usual standards. I'm not generalizing on that one, even Volvo admitted it. And strangely enough it was joint factory with a Japanese company. Of course, it was Mitsubishi which isn't saying a lot.

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