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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 08:17 AM
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Hey, don't know if any of you have experienced this, tried searching but didn't found anything related. My car starts normal, with a pretty good idle. It warms up like allways. When I turn on the radio (with factory sub) and/or headlights the idle stays normal (700-800rpm). Everything's ok up to the moment when I turn on the a/c, the idle lowers suddenly and won't stabilized, the engine shakes a little but not much. This will happen like 95% of the times I turn on the car, it doesn't matter if it's the first time in the day or the tenth time; and it goes away in like 5 to 10min. I know it's not the a/c gas because it doesn't have any problem cooling at our every day temp of 90deg. I'm thinking maybe its electrical. Any help will be appreciated...
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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i think that happens to everyone?
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 11:12 AM
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and it goes away in like 5 to 10min.
So you have a unusual idle during this entire time frame?...What does it idle at when vibrations occur?

The a/c will usually drop my idle momentarily but it returns back to normal. I get subtle vibrations but it only lasts 1-2 seconds.
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 05:05 PM
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When I turn the a/c on it will idle around 500rpm and yes, it will do it for 5 to ten min.
I will take the car of the garage, run to the first stop light and it will continue. It will stop if I turn the a/c off or after a little while. Don't really think it's normal.
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 05:20 PM
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a/c running the compressor off of the engine's power.....

of course it's gonna affect it.
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 10:52 PM
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Sounds like the compressor is boggin it down waaaay too long though.
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 10:54 PM
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mine does it the whole time...
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 12:48 AM
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Mine makes a grumpy sound when i turn the a/c on when i turn the a/c on right after starting the motor. But it doesnt last any amount of time. Its an instant...GRUURP sound. But yours sounds kinda serious. Take it to the dealer. 5 to ten minutes of shaking???? Not normal guys.
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 02:41 AM
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Mine does it at stop lights when it is idling.

If you think the tC is bad......my Yaris with the GReddy exhaust is even worse....it is normal.The compressor is using motor power to run,AC compressors do not pull power evenly......as the head in the compressor builds pressure and cools the gas it open and closes the valve and that is what makes them run like that.

Get the compressor checked to make sure it is not failing......they do fail and can make the car idle really weird,but your description sound like normal operation.If you have an aftermarket exhaust you will really notice the rise and fall of the idle even more than you would with a stock exhaust.
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 07:29 AM
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I really noticed it when the exhaust was put on the car like BZinn1 said. If I recall my rpms chill at like 500 or so with the a/c on and never really exactly stabilizes. I'll have to take notice next I use the A/C.
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SquallLHeart
a/c running the compressor off of the engine's power.....

of course it's gonna affect it.
Agreed. Unless your engine suddenly dies when you introduce the added draw of the A/C compressor...I wouldn't worry about it.
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 07:31 PM
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Are we talking about a cold start? If so, 5-10 minutes of idling at strange RPMs is completely normal; the engine's trying to warm itself up. If there was a problem with your compressor constantly running, you would see the impact in your gas mileage.

I have never been in a car that hasn't vibrated with the A/C on, except my old Dodge truck... which CONSTANTLY vibrated, A/C or not (5.9 liter V8 ).
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 11:25 PM
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Mine does it at every stop light I stop at with the AC on........freaked me out the first time it happened.....now I just ignore it.....it happens withthe defrosters on as well as I beleive the air for them comes out the same path as the AC so it dries the windows moisture.
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Mine stopped doing it...after the compressor went bad
Old Aug 25, 2008 | 04:54 PM
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Thanks for the feedback guys. I do have the Borla exhaust and a set of headers, maybe thats the reason. Either way as long as it cools I'll ignore the shaking.
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