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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 12:05 AM
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I like shiny stuff.
Old Mar 3, 2007 | 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mattvs
I guess these cheezin a$$ haters just are really annoying when all they do is talk with there fingers.. and dont have the cars to back them up.. thats all

I guess I'm a cheezin butt hater because the OP still wouldn't have any taste if he had a second tongue grafted into his mouth.

In the end, I suspect, the car will look more like a JDM rape victim than anything resembling a well-planned show car. All of the quality cars I have seen have consistent design elements, color schemes, and look professionally done.

Nothing I have seen indicates a concrete direction of modifications other than "JDM, yo" which has already been pointed out to be fruitless. May as well be trying that with a Mustang.

To sum it up, his otherwise stock car has been, essentially, bathed in ___gotry.


And my car certainly backs me up. In fact, it's responsible for the "bathed in ___gotry" line.
design elements.. what isnt consistant on my car??? and ugh i guess ur look at ur awesome civics with all painted dash pieces red and red tint and all.. hmmmmm i guess there are no cars out there that have tons of jap parts.. that are different colors cause of the brands hmmm weird..

You havent seen anything on the car besides wheels wow! so how can you go off talkin ur $hit about ohhh i haven't seen anything.. no one has but hey maybe your special..
Old Mar 3, 2007 | 03:33 AM
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i tend to stay neutral... but here's my input on this matter.

what i've learned over time, is that spending the extra money to buy quality parts is worth it in the end... because these "cheap now" products tend to have a short durability and life, and thus you replace... often with the better quality part. so why not just start with the quality part in the first place? for example, my team pretty much only runs volks on our cars... mainly we like the look... but the quality of the build is amazing. the number of potholes hit, cars in accidents with them on... they hold up. compare to a knock-off wheel which tend to crack or bend o'so easily.

my b0x for example is slightly modded since it is truly my daily driver... but i mod to replace worn out oem parts... and i'm definitely not going to skimp out on the b0x.

redneck: try out an HIN show, you never know what you'll get out of it... do it at least once... kinda like saying "don't knock it til you try it". truth is, HIN is gonna be around for a looooong time... ever wonder why there aren't that many car show circuits going on? i've entered my xB in it's slightly modded form previously, i didn't win... but it did draw attention. our team has show winning cars, and at the same time, you'll see us driving on the street and meeting up at the local meets. so you can have the best of both worlds.

but my point of this is... BUY QUALITY! ;)

greg, keep it up! i'm sure you're connected as well, but hit us up if needed.
Old Mar 3, 2007 | 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by sanders
i tend to stay neutral... but here's my input on this matter.

what i've learned over time, is that spending the extra money to buy quality parts is worth it in the end... because these "cheap now" products tend to have a short durability and life, and thus you replace... often with the better quality part. so why not just start with the quality part in the first place? for example, my team pretty much only runs volks on our cars... mainly we like the look... but the quality of the build is amazing. the number of potholes hit, cars in accidents with them on... they hold up. compare to a knock-off wheel which tend to crack or bend o'so easily.

my b0x for example is slightly modded since it is truly my daily driver... but i mod to replace worn out oem parts... and i'm definitely not going to skimp out on the b0x.

redneck: try out an HIN show, you never know what you'll get out of it... do it at least once... kinda like saying "don't knock it til you try it". truth is, HIN is gonna be around for a looooong time... ever wonder why there aren't that many car show circuits going on? i've entered my xB in it's slightly modded form previously, i didn't win... but it did draw attention. our team has show winning cars, and at the same time, you'll see us driving on the street and meeting up at the local meets. so you can have the best of both worlds.

but my point of this is... BUY QUALITY! ;)

greg, keep it up! i'm sure you're connected as well, but hit us up if needed.
Couldn't have said it better.. thanks man.. I'll hit ya up.. ya coming to HIN Nightshift tampa? my backyard.. woot!
Old Mar 3, 2007 | 04:51 AM
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what i've learned over time, is that spending the extra money to buy quality parts is worth it in the end... because these "cheap now" products tend to have a short durability and life, and thus you replace... often with the better quality part.
A lesson you need to learn immediately about car modifications is that branding and price are never guaranteed to dictate quality.

I can buy a cat-back exhaust for my car from Greddy for around a thousand dollars. (Carbon Ti, look it up...MSRP is like $1200 )

or

I can buy a full turbo-back exhaust, manual boost controller, air filter kit, a boost guage that reads psi instead of bar, and an ECU flash from a shop in Ohio for about $300 more.

And instead of the myriad of hardcore, well-known JDM manufacturers...the O2 housing with the best gains for my car comes from an ebay store.

And that's the tip of the iceberg from the Evo world.


Anyway, that's kind of a different thread.


design elements.. what isnt consistant on my car??? and ugh i guess ur look at ur awesome civics with all painted dash pieces red and red tint and all.. hmmmmm i guess there are no cars out there that have tons of jap parts.. that are different colors cause of the brands hmmm weird..

You havent seen anything on the car besides wheels wow! so how can you go off talkin ur $hit about ohhh i haven't seen anything.. no one has but hey maybe your special..
You have posted about the orange wheels, an exposed tow hook, an overly expensive, heat soaking airbox, some brake pads, cheap looking teal pedals that look like brake calipers, and an axle-back exhaust.

I can get a pretty good mental image of that.

You may as well be bragging about getting an oil change.
Old Mar 3, 2007 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by mattvs
what i've learned over time, is that spending the extra money to buy quality parts is worth it in the end... because these "cheap now" products tend to have a short durability and life, and thus you replace... often with the better quality part.
A lesson you need to learn immediately about car modifications is that branding and price are never guaranteed to dictate quality.
i'm at the point in life where i don't feel like fooling around and taking chances in modifications working, or possibly not working. the money you pay are for R&D [or maybe not]... its like when i was not much younger that i didn't care about having a/c... now it's a must.

regardless, good job if you found ways to get the same benefit by spending less... i personally would rather spend more and have less headache... even if there's performance gain or not.

for example... look at hre wheels... expensive, but why are they being banned in race circuits? ro_ja wheels, kinda sorta a knock-off here in the states... but some higher end stuff overseas. i've had my share of experiences with different manufacturers, and i'm highly biased towards the companies i purchase from... just because i know it works for me.

yes i'm fortunate to be connected to the right sources... even if i weren't, i'd probably still stick to the name brand ____. ;)
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yeah I still like shiny stuff.
Old Mar 3, 2007 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mattvs


You havent seen anything on the car besides wheels wow! so how can you go off talkin ur $hit about ohhh i haven't seen anything.. no one has but hey maybe your special..
You have posted about the orange wheels, an exposed tow hook, an overly expensive, heat soaking airbox, some brake pads, cheap looking teal pedals that look like brake calipers, and an axle-back exhaust.

I can get a pretty good mental image of that.

You may as well be bragging about getting an oil change.
so wow since you dont like orange wheels you can assume that my car wont look good or anything doesnt make sense... casue you dont like it no one does haha.. See the problem for you is it wasn't overly expensive for me the ARC box.. so what it comes down to is that your jealous I have the higher qaulity parts and you shop ebizzle for fleamarket deals.. sorry ...

You also complain about not saying with a theme design or whatever.. yet I get evertyhing Project Mu.. to stay with that company instead of swaping different pedals and all then you talk$hit about them... make up your mind.. you might not like the pedals.. but ya know what i didnt design them either.. if ya dont like them that much.. simple dont buy them for your car.. but hey im sticking with all the same brands on the parts that i can .. so now ur just running ur mouth in circles so sorry go with some awesome apc goodies on ebay and have an awesome day speedracer!
Old Mar 3, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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Greg, obviously some people on this site have NEVER been to Japan, so they wouldn't understand what true JDM is. You are absolutely right when you say JDM is all about color, flare, et cetera. Most manufacturers are known by color, not type of product they sell. Keep up the great work greg and look forward to seeing the final product! By the way, have you been to Japan before? I have never heard anyone understand the color concept there before.
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[quote="blackonblacktc"
3) zach, stop being a gregs biotch, you are always on your knees whenever someone says something bad about his car. and how can you be one to talk? arent you rocking 400 dollar sportmax's? and before that, didnt you have rotas? ya, i thought so.[/quote]

uhh, how about no.

wouldn't say his biatch
but people have their own opinion,..
and totally blow it out of proportion, including me.

OH WELL.

as for the rims, that's why
i sold the first pair, and the other are
gonna gone as well. give it time and it'll be in WORKS.
Old Mar 4, 2007 | 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by bcnu_702
Greg, obviously some people on this site have NEVER been to Japan, so they wouldn't understand what true JDM is. You are absolutely right when you say JDM is all about color, flare, et cetera. Most manufacturers are known by color, not type of product they sell. Keep up the great work greg and look forward to seeing the final product! By the way, have you been to Japan before? I have never heard anyone understand the color concept there before.
totally agree they <3 there ebay specials, and neon lights.. give me a woot!

Nah never been to jp. I read it like 5 yrs ago.. remember it for somereason ahha.. it was some article on Yashio Factory.
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this thread makes me laugh my ___ off.. it only proves how stupid, and un-knoledgable ppl are about the REAL or OTHER SIDE of the import scene and their TRUE roots in japanese manf goods, also cocky noob infested, immature, SHOW QUEENS, RICE BOYS, etc etc etc there is on this site...

im sometimes amazed at how much ppl blab on here thinking they know it all when they are completely clueless to MASS of the import world.. and how ppl on this site focus more attention sometimes on being the biggest rice boat show queen of a car and slap the lowest of low scum parts on their car and think THEY are better then anyone else...

its obvious that ALOT IF NOT ALMOST ALL ppl on this site are so freaking closed minded about cars and how they should look that if they dont look like something that got ____ted out of the f&f movies "its not a cool car" and how idolizing wack cheap parts, winning trophies and braggin how much crap junk they have put on their car.. that if "A VERY SELECTED FEW" went into another direction they automatically deam the break out people as untasteful, stupid, or "waste of money on jdm colored parts jargin" because they are not following the NORM of the rest of the ricers and retards who infest this site who give the scene a bad taste IMO..

i side with greg and not because i know him because i dont and not because of any other particular reason other then he like myself DO NOT FOLLOW the usual crap that infest this site like a plague.. *cough cough* KONIG UNKNOWNS AND AXIS RIMS ETC ETC on every freaking tc on this dam site practically..

if he wants to be different and put a selection of BETTER manf parts being jdm or not or have different colors because THATS HOW THE PARTS ARE LET THE MAN GO IN HIS DIRECTION.. chances are half you dumbasses in the end will jock the car and like it yourself.. and boom their goes the typical scionlife bandwagoning again...

FUNNY.. tunerzines TC had advans in fact 2 different style advans the RG's and the supers AND PEOPLE DROOLED.. well guess what those are "JDM wheels" so i guess you can label the car "JDM inspired" but yet i saw no one hate on it..hmm kind of a double standard i guess on this site..

people who trash the different colors ARE THE REAL IDIOTS because if the knew the import scene well enough like they think they do then they would know THATS HOW japanese manf. set themselves part from each other.. THATS THE WAY IT IS...if you think thats stupid or can comprehend that then your in the wrong industry and should switch to basket weaving or something with a smaller base of knowledge...

the world is huge ppl. and just because you've never been past buying stuff at your local shop or pepboys or flea market DOES NOT make it stupid..

// END RANT ON ALOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THIS SITE..

greg keep doing what your doing i personally think its a great direction your taking the tc to.. like myself.. and move past the ignorance.. once the car is done im sure they will be on ur jock like any other day someone posts their konig unknowns on here.. to bad your in upper florida.. most people in miami dont share the same taste as probably you and i do. would be nice to not see another riced out fart can blazin neon light sporting tc here on chrome rims.. BLAH!
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man there are some HATERS on this thread rofl......people DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE YOU DRINK THE HATERAID!

much props for greg showin some jdm heat for tC's!
Old Mar 4, 2007 | 11:05 AM
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CAN I GET A WOOT WOOT! HAHA THANKS GUYS
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Honestly, I like the some of the cars that generally get hated on in this group of people that typially gets flamed, but overtime... I start to dislike the drivers becasue of some of the crap they talk. If your motto is not to be cheap and buy quality stuff.... then why are you driving a <$20k vehicle? Car's 95% of the time are depreciating assets, so dumping tons of money into something that isn't going to be around for 20 years would be silly.... UNLESS (pay attention before you start hating on me) you are doing it to catch recognition of future sponsors and such, then great because we all know that we dump money into our cars for entertainment value and you are looking to be in this scene for awhile.

I may not be able to spend high dollar on parts in my car... but that is because I got other stuff going on. I own my own house, 2 vehicles, 3 college degrees, and will be starting up a business soon.... So just because someone doesn't spend all their money on their cars...don't hate on them. My only desire for car shows is to raise money for charitable reasons. Anything won isn't going into my pocket... I got bigger things in life to deal with. But again, you do your thing, and I do mine.

Also, remember.... you started this thread to support a shop, there's 2 1/2 pages of hating going on. I had to go back to the first page to even see what the shops name was after reading through all of this.
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To each there own, but I mean the car just aint of me. Good luck on it. I dont understand the whole JDM thing since our car isnt JDM, but like I said to each there own.

Good Luck.
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the thing is that you have to understand the culture and really be into it to fully understand and appreciate taking the car in a diferent direction

YES, I know their is no JDM tc, and so do alot of other ppl but their is nothing wrong with introducing an inspired theme for the car.. this is were i think alot of ppl faulter.. they dont understand, they've never seen it before, and they cant appreciate the quality, respect, and rarety of some of these parts will acertain over time.

yes ppl spend alot of money on their "civics, integras, rsxs, old nissans and toyo etc etc" not because they can afford the parts and would prefer dumping that money into a HIGHER STANDARD car but because of the love of the sport and the parts and the way it sets them apart from the usual rice boys.... why spend 30K on a fast car when for 10k-15k you could have a car that performs just as equal if not WAY BETTER then a higher car up the food chain..

i loved my old eg 4dr... had all the ferio interior, slammed on pro racer gns 16" in bronze with built gsr motor and full suspension and jeeze it was awesome to be able to keep up with if not pass 350z', g35s, wrx's, or alot of HIGHER PERFORMANCE cars why?? because the feeling of that was priceless.. which is why alot people dump money into cheaper cars "like the tc" because its possible and doable and sometimes the cars look alittle nicer to our eyes then just buying a higher upscale car..

you gotta understand ppl the culture that is the other side.. i think some ppl just dont get it.. me doing this for over 11 years now i've seen trends come and go... some ppl just need more time to broaden their minds i guess.

WOOT WOOT 4 GREG..
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Originally Posted by SickleCell
Honestly, I like the some of the cars that generally get hated on in this group of people that typially gets flamed, but overtime... I start to dislike the drivers becasue of some of the crap they talk. If your motto is not to be cheap and buy quality stuff.... then why are you driving a <$20k vehicle? Car's 95% of the time are depreciating assets, so dumping tons of money into something that isn't going to be around for 20 years would be silly.... UNLESS (pay attention before you start hating on me) you are doing it to catch recognition of future sponsors and such, then great because we all know that we dump money into our cars for entertainment value and you are looking to be in this scene for awhile.

I may not be able to spend high dollar on parts in my car... but that is because I got other stuff going on. I own my own house, 2 vehicles, 3 college degrees, and will be starting up a business soon.... So just because someone doesn't spend all their money on their cars...don't hate on them. My only desire for car shows is to raise money for charitable reasons. Anything won isn't going into my pocket... I got bigger things in life to deal with. But again, you do your thing, and I do mine.

Also, remember.... you started this thread to support a shop, there's 2 1/2 pages of hating going on. I had to go back to the first page to even see what the shops name was after reading through all of this.

I just don't see how you can compare cheap parts to ARC parts, and Project Mu parts.. to a car that cost $18k.. wow thats like saying every single person out there that bought a stupid civic or 240 for cheap has wasted money.. I'm not out to make a profit, I'm here to a statement, go places and do things other people wont do or haven't seen often.. I'm not a follower and do what everyone does.. thats lame my goal with building cars is simple.. magazine features.. I don't care that much about shows besides coverage for my car.. thats it bottom line.. I <3 cars, I love buidling and designing cars... i luv how people grow to hate me for what I build when half are rockin bone stock cars.. makes me smile at the end of the day.. why... because they took time to actually look at the car and it made a mark on them good or bad.. they are still talking about it.

As far as spending money.. I paid $400 for a 90 240sx beat to $hit... blown motor

... $20k later I got this:

I lost $12k when I sold the car, 6 months after I finished building it..Did I care.. no.. main goal for that car.. magazine features, I succeeded with 2 mag features and 2 online features.. Time to move on..

I'm not trying to sound cocky, but people say they can't afford this part, that part.. but they don't have to talk $hit cuase they can't consume the concept of a Jdm inspired car.. key word INSPIRED... NOT JDM TC.. "INSPIRED"..


I under stand what full jdm is.. it took me 2yrs to build the prelude, waiting on parts to come from jp.. cause no one has them and hunting down at honda dealerships in jp for parts.. I understand real jdm.. trust me.. and i miss it.. the qaulity , the look, and people in general not doing it.. how many people are rocking the ARC box.. not many and that helps out alot...

I'm really not wasting alot of $$ on parts thanks to all my sponsors, from my past and who i know "not a cocky statement" helps me out alot in buidling my car with helps from TUNERZINE.com

you say don't hate on people cause they dont spend alot on there car. well doesnt make alot of sense they can't hate on mine cause i do.. I'm just standing up for the car i built and they would do the same.. I honestly don't care what they think.. just sick and tired of everyone on this site hating cause they cant take in the thought of mansomeone has this and im rocking aem.. or whatever i dont care.. i dont hate i think its stupid other people do it too... I dont go into peoples threads and talk down.. cause man I would have alot of post if i did that.. trust me but thats just stupid.. yeah people have an opinion but dont care about it cause your pockets arent deep or you dont wanan spend that much thats cool.. but I don't wanna hear about it.. just stupid..

I just laugh when people say i dont know what jdm is.. or blah blah.. I have a very good understanding of what it is.. just before they cry and complain maybe they should read the fine print " INSPIRED" THANKS
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wow....relax a little man. My post was not an attack on your car. I was commenting on the fact that you have to put others down because of a few haters.

I was also commenting on the fact that you are trying to support a shop and it has turned into this.
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ehhhhhhhh.



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