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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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Towing - i've searched all over the forums about it, but no one seems to know "why the TC is not recommended to tow". Is it because of the glass roof, is the frame weak??? I am looking to tow my Sea Doo, prob 1000 lbs counting the trailer. I used to tow it all the time with my neon, then I got a Jeep, but gas was killing me so I got a TC. Now its summer time and I would like to tow it to a few local lakes. Does anyone tow a PWC on here???

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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 01:40 PM
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The tC is not recommended to tow due to the drive train in main. Now not only is the frame not built for it, it could probably stand up to it. But as i said, the drive train would be my main worry as the tC is not built for high torque take offs and you will be killing your first gear.
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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Cuz our cars arn't a Truck?...

Did look & read through then Manuel??....I pretty sure it says something in there..
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Because it is a small car with no real place to attach a hitch. Most small cars are not recommended for towing due to this, although some still attach a receiver anyway.
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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Ya, you could probably get one and it would "work" for a while... but the excess wear and tear on the drivetrain and the car in general will not be worth it.

If you really need to tow something and bought a tC hoping to be able to, you bought the wrong car.
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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Towing as in dragging your car? Or towing as in having the "tow truck" pull the car on it's rear and transport your car?

Which tow are you guys speaking of?
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 02:47 PM
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Towing as in having a tow truck dragging your car? Or towing as in having the "tow truck" pull the car on it's rear and transport your car (your car would be flat on the rear)?

Which tow are you guys speaking of?
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MVPlaya
Towing as in dragging your car? Or towing as in having the "tow truck" pull the car on it's rear and transport your car?

Which tow are you guys speaking of?
The one where the vehicle istelf (the tC) is towing something behind it. In this case a trailer with a SeaDoo.
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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yea... wrong vehicle for that.. but i do believe that in the manual that it states that the tc can tow upto a certain weight.. like 500 lbs or something... i'm not 100% sure but i think i read that somewhere...
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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I think the reason, as has been stated, is because we don't realy have a "frame" per se thats made to be able to take a lot of weight in the specific area needed for towing.

I mean, you could tow something if you really had to - you'd spend a lot of gas - but I guess it could be done for very short distances... THAT IS, if there was a real place for a tow hitch.

Otherwise, our clutches (or oil coolers on autos) can't really take 1,000 lbs of extra weight... well, I mean, it'd wear both components out much faster than they otherwise would. At least I think so. I may be wrong.
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 07:25 PM
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well there are alot of different reasons, its a small car, not built for hauling.

that extra strain on the drivetrain isnt good at all, and not to mention hauling stuff would really wreak havoc on your clutch...

if you need to haul something, but a POS truck and do the deed...

my dad got a screaming deal on a hauling truck and camper combo that he got all for 10 grand - the truck is a 1991 chev with only 10k miles on it, and had NEVER been driven except to haul the breand new camper that it came with.

NOT saying go out and buy another car, but dont use your tc for hauling.

you will regret it when you clutch burns out 100 miles down the road.
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 09:43 PM
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I never planned or bought my tC with intentions to tow, I just thought it may be a posibility. No big deal though, I would rather not but the extra strain on my new car anyways.
Old Jun 6, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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You could probably get by towing 1000lbs, but thats about it. Unless the manual states a lower number that is. And of course, I wouldn't recommend towing on a daily basis.

I have had 3 people and about 650lbs of tiles in my tC and it drove fine. A wee bit sluggish, but it took it like a champ.

There is extra testing involved to have your car rated for towing and since Scion is about a low price they probably avoided the testing. My buddies Cavalier is rated to 2000 lbs I think.
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i plan on towing a leaf-blower around town for about a week, can the tC handle that?
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Originally Posted by RIPMKIV
i plan on towing a leaf-blower around town for about a week, can the tC handle that?
It would be one massive leaf-blower not to fit in the tC with all the seats down. That said, it would not be worth the money to put a hitch on the tC, buy a trailer, and then tow the leafblower.
Old Jun 8, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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I have an 89 Ford F250 diesel. I bought it on eBay for $1100. It runs and drives perfect and I get it's use out of towing our boat and using it for runs to the dump/home depot/getting barkdust/towing crap. You might want to look into a beater truck for that.
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Originally Posted by farberio
Originally Posted by RIPMKIV
i plan on towing a leaf-blower around town for about a week, can the tC handle that?
It would be one massive leaf-blower not to fit in the tC with all the seats down. That said, it would not be worth the money to put a hitch on the tC, buy a trailer, and then tow the leafblower.
lol, it fits, but i need it for someone else to sit in
Old Jun 9, 2007 | 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by RIPMKIV
Originally Posted by farberio
Originally Posted by RIPMKIV
i plan on towing a leaf-blower around town for about a week, can the tC handle that?
It would be one massive leaf-blower not to fit in the tC with all the seats down. That said, it would not be worth the money to put a hitch on the tC, buy a trailer, and then tow the leafblower.
lol, it fits, but i need it for someone else to sit in
Right, but its cheaper to drive two cars, assuming of course your partner can drive.

I mean, figure a couple hundred for the hitch, a couple hundred for the trailer. Registration for the trailer...
Old Jun 9, 2007 | 06:06 AM
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assuming the hitch and trailer are already in possession and registered... can the tC handle it? if you know
Old Jun 9, 2007 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by MVPlaya
Originally Posted by MVPlaya
Towing as in having a tow truck dragging your car? Or towing as in having the "tow truck" pull the car on it's rear and transport your car (your car would be flat on the rear)?

Which tow are you guys speaking of?
The towing where you read the first post and don't quote yourself in your second post in the thread.



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