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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 08:35 PM
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i saw this japanese dude in this racing video and when he started he had his handbrake up and engine revved... once he launches, he release the handbrake and took off....

is that ok with the tC?


i mean are you suppose to

- release the clutch at engage point

-handbrake up (hold the lock button)

- rev the engine up to 2700 rpm o whatever (the car will pull forward alittle)

-then once it hits green just release the clutch and pull down the handbrake sametime, and press in the gas immediately. you should take off...



or this is good for only AWD? that clip was a guy driving with a 2.5RS.


anyone know the best way to launch with the tC (FWD)????
Old Oct 3, 2004 | 08:38 PM
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I know the idea you are talking about is good on hills, just incase you are scared you will roll back into the guy behind you. As for drag racing, Im not sure if thats a good thing on your clutch.
Old Oct 3, 2004 | 08:52 PM
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yeah i use that on steep inclines so i dont hit the guy behind me or if im parked on a steep decline with a car in front of me but i wouldnt do it for racing
Old Oct 3, 2004 | 10:13 PM
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What exactly are you trying to do or accomplish?
Old Oct 3, 2004 | 10:51 PM
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why is called an emergency break do you use it when its an emergency???

for all i know its called a parking break not an emergency break just a FYI :D
Old Oct 3, 2004 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by hornet_on_flower
why is called an emergency break do you use it when its an emergency???

for all i know its called a parking break not an emergency break just a FYI :D
I think its the same thing. In case of break fluid loss, you could use your hand break/parking break, to engage the rear breaks to slow you down. In this case it would be a Emergency break.
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 12:13 AM
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yea yea i know about all of that but this video clip on kazaa i found was a 2.5RS vs MR2 (both old versions). it was more like a japanese show, they had the 2.5rs (suppose to win) camera viewed on him and he had his handbrake on. his engine was revved up too. once he took off he release the clutch, handbrake down, and stomped the gas pedal all at the sametime with a nice launch.



anyone heard of this or seen it before???? its also used for drifting in those tour racing.


if you got KAZAA, download "impreza vs MR2" and you'll see what the japanese dude does....
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 02:06 AM
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I'm a VW guy.. and all the racers at Drag Day use the EBrake when racing 1/4 and 1/8 mile. Its called PRELOADING your transmission... so you dont just dump the clutch at high RPMs possibly breaking something when your tranny engages. Heres how you do it..... your at the lights..ebrake is on.....rev motor to desired launch rpms..let the clutch out just until you feel it grab, not all the way out.The ebrake should hold you...your hand is on the ebrake BUTTON...light drops or changes...drop the ebrake and clutch...take off....shift to second. This is much easier on your tranny/drive train then high rpms and just dumping the clutch. Yeah it takes practice. Same practice applies to front and AWD vehicles.. it isnt a VW only thing that is just my area of experience.
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yay
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by hornet_on_flower
why is called an emergency break do you use it when its an emergency???
One of my old cars once had an idle problem. Whenever I came to a stop without holding the gas, the car would die. Solution: Left Foot - Clutch, Right Foot - Gas, Right Hand - Emergency Brake.
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 01:35 PM
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Please practice this in an empty parking lot, and not at the stoplight next to my car.
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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Default Use of emergency / hand brake

I see comments in here which appear to come from little boy racer types that obviously have a limited knowledge on the use of the emergency / handbrake.

In the UK for you driving test (which is much more stringent than the PA State US test, although with other friends that have done tests in various states CA, AZ, FL, IL, NY, NJ) .

Notes on using hand/emergency/parking brake on a manual transmission car

The handbrake is used for parking with a manual transmission. This is why is is sometimes referred to as a parking brake. Manuals do not have an interlock mechanism to prevent care from rolling when parked.

Also as part of the test in UK you are required to do a hill start. In this situation to prevent a failure on the test you need to ensure that the car does not roll backwards at all. Hence the use of the handbrake - bring the clutch to the bite point and release the handbrake. As the clutch is at the bite point you should not roll backwards on release of brake.

Also when doing a K turn, 3 point turn or (the formal description of turning the car around using forward and reverse gears). You are driven to a side street and asked by the examiner to turn the car around. At this point touching the curbs with you wheels is a big downer and often results in failure. The roads have cambers which flow away from the center of the road towards the curbs. So when you switching from forward to reverse gears the taught method is to

Brake using footbrake.
Clutch
Handbrake
Change gear
Bring clutch to the bite point
Release handbrake
....

Sounds a lot of work but for your test it prevent any roll forward or backward to touch the curb and thus fail......

All this is a rather moot point once you pass as you can drive however you want and as you develop more control you eliminate a need for using the handbrake as much and less wear on you clutch.

If you think this puts undue wear on your clutch or brakes shoes/pads then I'd suggest you look at you personal driving style - are you riding around with you foot on the clutch etc.

At the moment I'm waiting for my TC and am driving around in my 97 chevy cavalier. 230,000 miles and still the original clutch and shoes.... My vehicle prior to this in UK had 140,000 miles and original cluthc and shoes as well....
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 07:29 PM
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dude that "preloading your transmission" ____ is better then completely pressing the clutch down and rev up then quickly release the clutch....

i was driving around my neighborhood practicing it and preloading is much quicker. i was comparing it from 0-40. preloadin hits up to 40 very quick everytime, but the other is between 35-40mph (but most of the time i burn out badly cause of that), most of the time less then 40.


i need some new rims.....
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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Just because you see someone doing something in a racing video doesn't mean you should try it. Your car isn't a race car. It's an economy car.
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 10:37 PM
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In the original post it stated the guy was racing.. It wasnt a video of somebody stopping on a hill or taking a drivers test...Oh i use my brake when i'm parked on a steep incline....NO SH$T Sherlock. So i explained what the guy was doing. I dont endorse street racing. Take it to the track and practice. There are alot of driving techniques that the average driver cant comprehend. I'll leave it at that !!!! Oh and the little boy racer comment from the UK a$$hole... read the post.. i just ansewered his question .. thats all... BLOODY CRAPPY post for your first one.
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 12:04 AM
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Default Is it ok to launch with your handbrake???

Commenting that someone is an _______ for providing instruction on launching with the handbrake, shows rather a direspect for other peoples opinions and comments....

If you think there is a need to "launch on the handbrake" for average street driving then you are probably like to wear your pads down rather prematurely, probably burn you clutch out quickly (probably then complain that its a defect) and more than likely get the occasional ticket for excess speed as you think youre in a race car not an nicely equipped economy.

If you learn to drive a manual properly then there are proper use of the handbrake - rather watching some bloke with a race car doing something and think that there is a real need to copy it. Lets all start left foot breaking and chnaging gears without using the clutch and then complain to scion when we start grinding the gears....
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 12:10 AM
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And insulting another member on your 3rd post shows a complete respect of others....

Looking at the original post - if your having to even ask the question then youve not mastered the use of a manual transmission. Perhaps a bit of advice on what the hand brake is actually used for may be a little more informative.

Rather than saying take it to the track.... blah blah blah _______.....
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 01:32 AM
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"It's an economy car."


I've heard this before and it puzzles me. Economy car in what sense? In the price? Because if you want a true economy car, the tC is not one. Perhaps a stripped civic, xA, aveo, or something like that. It certainly doesn't get very economical gas mileage either.
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by lucky
"It's an economy car."


I've heard this before and it puzzles me. Economy car in what sense? In the price? Because if you want a true economy car, the tC is not one. Perhaps a stripped civic, xA, aveo, or something like that. It certainly doesn't get very economical gas mileage either.

in other words he said it wasn't meant for racing..
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 02:47 AM
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sweet, I ve always wondered why they drop the ebrake before they launch... now i know.
Maybe ill try it when i get my car in the track.



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