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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 04:00 AM
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couper I wasn't being picky. maybe you should reread my post. I was only commenting.


the rubber must just not cover it as well as in the carshow.
Old Jun 22, 2004 | 04:39 AM
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I went to the dealer and saw the gap first hand. Yes it is there to stay and NO there isn't a rubber piece there to paint. I had the dealer open up the hood to check.

It isn't a big deal for me because I am purchasing a black tC so it shouldn't show up to much.
Old Jun 22, 2004 | 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by brasscorpion
I went to the dealer and saw the gap first hand. Yes it is there to stay and NO there isn't a rubber piece there to paint. I had the dealer open up the hood to check.

It isn't a big deal for me because I am purchasing a black tC so it shouldn't show up to much.
couper thinks its there for some reason. I don't mind that it's there cos im getting black as well. just thought it strange that they decided to cover it up for the showroom critics. it stands out alot on the white so filling it in with rubber or something should fix it nicely.
Old Jun 22, 2004 | 04:45 AM
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i was bothered by it at first but its not that bad. plus it gives more cooling
Old Jun 22, 2004 | 04:48 AM
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DuMa! you're the person i was talking about... ;)

ok... you know, i'm still amazed that i got this many responses for a rant...

might switch to Flint Mica if it's annoying enough...
Old Jun 22, 2004 | 05:59 AM
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Aa ghh ahghh... sorry , just creamed my jeans at the site of those 19s again.

Yeah the gap doesn't bother me. But it shows less on darker colors, and i'm gettint flint mica.
Old Jun 22, 2004 | 12:02 PM
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Shot in the dark...

Maybe it assists with air induction or cooling? Maybe it's that high as a safey feature (improved crash results?)
Old Jun 22, 2004 | 12:09 PM
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guys i think that the gap is there...

so you can open the hood... you know to check the oil, washer fluid, coolant, change a plug or two...

if it really bothers you, wait 1-2 yrs (maybe less) and some rice company will have a one piece flip forward front end that you can waste your money on.

Just my $0.001
Old Jun 22, 2004 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CU_rob
guys i think that the gap is there...

so you can open the hood... you know to check the oil, washer fluid, coolant, change a plug or two...

if it really bothers you, wait 1-2 yrs (maybe less) and some rice company will have a one piece flip forward front end that you can waste your money on.

Just my $0.001
So you can check your fluids?? Puhlease. You guys are coming up with so many excuses for this that it is pathetic. On just about every car, the hood mechanism pops the hood up AT LEAST a few inches so that you have enough clearance to get your fingers under the hood and lift it up.
Old Jun 22, 2004 | 02:11 PM
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to open the hood? check fluids? lol... there's already a thing to assist with that... it's the handle inside your car, usually on the drivers' side in the footwell, that says "open hood". pull it, and it unlatches the hood enough to get your fingers underneath to open it.

i mean, i look at the BMW 3series and love the grille integrated into the hood thing... looks sleek and clean... then i look at the z4 and see that they messed up the design by separating the grille and hood and now there's a line going through it. it might just be the design that made the tC's hood look like that... but you have to admit that the 3series hood looks better than the z4 hood just because it doesn't have that line going across (but again, that's my personal preference). that was just a comment on design... even still the gap between hood and grille isn't that big and it manages to keep the lines tight enough not to be noticaeable after that.

i'm not comparing BMWs to Scions. i mean, even on the celica it doesn't look as gap-py... on my IS, the hood is the top part of the grille and it still looks clean. i'm saying that i've never seen a hood gap so big on any other car except on the tC so noticeable that they have to attempt to cover it up at a SHOW. that just shows that they have a gripe about it too, but was too late to fix it. it's a gripe, that's all. if all other cars can have tight lines and STILL be "opened" then why couldn't scion? who's the idiot that goofed the hood design and missed it by the few millimeters to force Scion to insert something in there?

just my .02
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lol i swear that everytime i try to write a repsonse someone beats me to it...
Old Jun 22, 2004 | 05:50 PM
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: Start Sarcastic comment :
Originally Posted by CU_rob
guys i think that the gap is there...
so you can open the hood... you know to check the oil, washer fluid, coolant, change a plug or two...
: End Sarcastic comment :

Just in case some on this post took me seriously.
Old Jun 22, 2004 | 06:31 PM
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hey i realize you were being sarcastic... but this comment:

Originally Posted by CU_rob

if it really bothers you, wait 1-2 yrs (maybe less) and some rice company will have a one piece flip forward front end that you can waste your money on.

Just my $0.001
kinda sounded like you were trying to make fun of the people that it DOES bother... just wanted to explain that asthetics are a big reason people are looking to buy this car over others... just wish they took a little more attention to detail.
Old Jun 22, 2004 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 2JZ
hey i realize you were being sarcastic... but this comment:

Originally Posted by CU_rob

if it really bothers you, wait 1-2 yrs (maybe less) and some rice company will have a one piece flip forward front end that you can waste your money on.

Just my $0.001
kinda sounded like you were trying to make fun of the people that it DOES bother... just wanted to explain that asthetics are a big reason people are looking to buy this car over others... just wish they took a little more attention to detail.
And if it's not such a big deal, then why did Toyota cover it up at the auto show?
Old Jun 22, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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i see no problem with that gap. at least it isnt an inch wide. you guys need to really calm down about the little gap. yes i said little.
Old Jun 22, 2004 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by djimpak
i see no problem with that gap. at least it isnt an inch wide. you guys need to really calm down about the little gap. yes i said little.
Well, tell that to Toyota. They don't seem to like the gap
Old Jun 22, 2004 | 09:43 PM
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^^^ if i could, i would but i cant. maybe ill tell one of the dealers when i go check the tC out this weekend(hopefully)
Old Jun 22, 2004 | 10:41 PM
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OK, that does it. I am not buying the car because of the small crack. I will go buy a Kia that doesn't have a crack. Hope the engine is as good as the tC.

Kevin
Old Jun 23, 2004 | 03:05 AM
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^^ yeah most people think that gaps is a great way to show their build quality. kinda like bars in seats.
Old Jun 23, 2004 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 2JZ
i mean, i look at the BMW 3series and love the grille integrated into the hood thing... looks sleek and clean... then i look at the z4 and see that they messed up the design by separating the grille and hood and now there's a line going through it. it might just be the design that made the tC's hood look like that... but you have to admit that the 3series hood looks better than the z4 hood just because it doesn't have that line going across (but again, that's my personal preference). that was just a comment on design... even still the gap between hood and grille isn't that big and it manages to keep the lines tight enough not to be noticaeable after that.

i'm not comparing BMWs to Scions. i mean, even on the celica it doesn't look as gap-py... on my IS, the hood is the top part of the grille and it still looks clean. i'm saying that i've never seen a hood gap so big on any other car except on the tC so noticeable that they have to attempt to cover it up at a SHOW. that just shows that they have a gripe about it too, but was too late to fix it. it's a gripe, that's all. if all other cars can have tight lines and STILL be "opened" then why couldn't scion? who's the idiot that goofed the hood design and missed it by the few millimeters to force Scion to insert something in there?

just my .02
Another BMW to Scion comparison: Look at the BMW 8-series. It cost $80K new. It has the same sort of problem as the tC. The hood and front bumper don't touch, and there is a gap with a rubber insert. The integra has it too. I believe it is there for a legitimate reason, even though it doesn't look so great. Maybe there is a problem with the different expansion properties of the plastic and metal. If the hood were lined up with the front bumper, perhaps the two would not fit together right on really hot days or something.

I'm not trying to make excuses for Toyota, but if BMW did the same thing on their flagship car, perhaps it really is too much to ask for it to be fixed on a relatively inexpensive Scion.

If you want an example of a design mistake, look at a white intega. It has a POS look at the front because it has a huge gap running all the way across the area where the hood and front fenders meet. It is really cheap and cheasy looking .



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