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So, will I be able to have auto starter on manual ?

Old Jan 8, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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Default So, will I be able to have auto starter on manual ?

Hi, guys... I have searched many other posts but still didn't get to conclusion.

I haven't bought my tc yet, but I will soon, as soon as I decide on options.

so will it be possible to have auto starter on manual tc ?

if so, what kind of starter and will the dealer ship be able to install it without

having problems (certifed installers) ?

Thank you for your answer.
Old Jan 8, 2005 | 08:28 PM
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It's illegal to put autostart on a manual car in many states.. if you start it in gear it will jump forwards and crash into whatever's in front of it (tree, car, etc).

Some places will install an aftermarket system ($50-300) that usually includes an alarm, but they usually tie it into the E-brake so it's safer.

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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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Default Install by pass...

Install by pass... doesn't allow it to start if in gear.
Old Jan 9, 2005 | 04:02 AM
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aww so I guess I have give up on either gear or auto starter T.T

anyway thanks for the answers. :D
Old Jan 9, 2005 | 03:01 PM
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if you can get it done get it done, it really helps out especially in the cold...brrrr...hahah

i got a remote start on my 5 speed, but beware you are gonna be losing a key..
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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Default Re: Install by pass...

Originally Posted by RanmaP
Install by pass... doesn't allow it to start if in gear.
How many cars can tell if the car is parked in gear? Does your car have an LED display that tells you what gear you're in? I've never seen sensors on shift gates.. Maybe in high end Bimmers or Lexus..
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by dmitri
How many cars can tell if the car is parked in gear? Does your car have an LED display that tells you what gear you're in? I've never seen sensors on shift gates.. Maybe in high end Bimmers or Lexus..
I'm not positive but I think your ECU knows what gear you are in, not to mention that when you pop it in reverse the back up lights come on..

Additionally you could probably set up a series of 2 or 3 switches that get pulled when your shifter isn't in the neutral position so when any one of the switches is engaged it dosen't complete the relay.
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tekniq

I'm not positive but I think your ECU knows what gear you are in, not to mention that when you pop it in reverse the back up lights come on..
It doesn't know what gear you are in. The manula tranny on a tC is mechanical... no electronics involved. It knows to turn on the reverse lights when you put it in reverse because the shifter presses against a switch that turns those lights on.

But yes, you can have an auto starter on a manual car, you just have to remember not to leave it in gear when you park it.
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 11:27 PM
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ya i wish i could get one on my manual but like they say it aint legal
Old Jan 15, 2005 | 01:23 AM
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You could get it done.....just make sure you're not in gear when you leave the car.
Old Jan 15, 2005 | 01:23 AM
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I think the only way to be sure would be for someone to get in their car, put it in gear, let out the clutch, THEN crank the starter and see if it starts up or not. If it won't crank, then the car knows what gear its in.

Some cars the clutch pedal has to be depressed, but which gear its in doesn't matter.
Old Jan 15, 2005 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by BubbaNoy
if you can get it done get it done, it really helps out especially in the cold...brrrr...hahah

i got a remote start on my 5 speed, but beware you are gonna be losing a key..
losing a key? please clarify, i'm guessing something to do with the transponder?
Old Jan 15, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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Get the compustar 2wss - its an alarm with remote start and has 1.5 mile range on the 2-way pager. I got it installled for 450 total. It has a fail-safe and wont remote start unless youre in neutral AND your ebrake is up. HOWEVER, ive read a few things on this forum about how remote starting your car and letting it idle is bad for your engine because its not running at optimal temp. (among other bad things). So think twice before you spend all that cash.
Old Jan 15, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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Letting an engine idle is BAD?

Ha, haha. I'm not saying that's definately a false statement, but I'd like to read up on some proof..
Old Jan 15, 2005 | 05:42 PM
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I heard it's good to have littile time for your engine to be warmed up, and it's bad to leave the engine with the ac on. my 2cent. :D
Old Jan 16, 2005 | 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Rivulent
Letting an engine idle is BAD?

Ha, haha. I'm not saying that's definately a false statement, but I'd like to read up on some proof..

Yes. Too much idling is bad. Especially if the car is cold
to start with. The longer it takes the car to warm up above
the vapor point for the combustion byproducts, the larger
the amount of particulate formation and growth. This leads
to sludge, varnish and particulates in your oil. In addition
to the wear these types of particles cause, you also end up
needing to change your engine oil more frequently because these
get you to your oil's particulate threshold faster.

The same principle leads to the increased acids in the engine
oil, except that when acids are not boiled off promptly
(because you idled your car to warm rather than driving it
moderately to warm it quicker) you get corrosion of the engine
metals.

In addition to long idles to warm up, you can get the same
deleterious effects by taking lots of short trips. Since it
takes time above the byproduct boiling point to boil off
all the byproducts short trips, say under 8-15 miles, especially
in stop and go driving leave a lot of gunk behind.
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