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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 02:25 AM
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My dealer just told me that in order to buy my lowering springs that I also have to buy the shock set. He says that on their computer it even tells you that the shocks are needed to use the springs. Now, c'mon that has to be crap!! To many guys and gals with springs on their tC's without it right?
Old Aug 12, 2004 | 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Rice Kake
My dealer just told me that in order to buy my lowering springs that I also have to buy the shock set. He says that on their computer it even tells you that the shocks are needed to use the springs. Now, c'mon that has to be crap!! To many guys and gals with springs on their tC's without it right?
That's BS. Even TRD says the springs are designed to work with stock struts (although I'm sure they work fine with the TRD struts as well.)
Old Aug 12, 2004 | 02:29 AM
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It sounds like he is either misinformed or looking to upsell you. It is a shame that some dealers are up to the same old crap.
Old Aug 12, 2004 | 02:33 AM
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And how much is he quoting you in labor for all of that?
Old Aug 12, 2004 | 02:40 AM
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that is total BS... i've never heard such requirement for springs. He's just trying to make money off of u.

Also...if u want to get a decent set of springs...wait about 1 month. GoldLines will be releasing their tC springs. It lowers 2" all around with lifetime warranty.
Old Aug 12, 2004 | 03:40 AM
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my dealer said the same thing, but he just never heard of the springs being able to be used with stock shocks... in any case, he now knows and will recommend that in the future
Old Aug 12, 2004 | 04:04 AM
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I bought the TRD Springs from Kearney Mesa Scion without any pressure to buy shocks or anything else. That dealer is misinformed or just trying to sell you more stuff. -Jayme
Old Aug 12, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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Misinformed dealer.


They obviiously dont know what they are talking about. Just trying to scam you is all.

Dont fall for it, or walk out.
Old Aug 12, 2004 | 12:20 PM
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My advice would be to first give the dealer proof (documentation) that they're incorrect. If they still refuse to budge, then tell him that you can buy the springs alone on-line, so it's up to him whether he sells them to you, or you go somewhere else for them.
Old Aug 12, 2004 | 12:58 PM
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scummy dealerships
Old Aug 12, 2004 | 10:31 PM
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actually, he could be referring to something i read on a thread awhile back.

the TRD springs will supposedly wear out the stock struts faster than normal and the TRD struts are a better match for the springs.

again, this is coming straight from what i remember reading and none of it is coming from me. i see no reason, however, to get the TRD struts before the stock ones wear out.
Old Aug 12, 2004 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by integsrtite
actually, he could be referring to something i read on a thread awhile back.

the TRD springs will supposedly wear out the stock struts faster than normal and the TRD struts are a better match for the springs.

again, this is coming straight from what i remember reading and none of it is coming from me. i see no reason, however, to get the TRD struts before the stock ones wear out.
and where did you read this from? you are starting to worry me, i don't want to have to change the struts in a few years.
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Originally Posted by nero tC
Originally Posted by integsrtite
actually, he could be referring to something i read on a thread awhile back.

the TRD springs will supposedly wear out the stock struts faster than normal and the TRD struts are a better match for the springs.

again, this is coming straight from what i remember reading and none of it is coming from me. i see no reason, however, to get the TRD struts before the stock ones wear out.
and where did you read this from? you are starting to worry me, i don't want to have to change the struts in a few years.
Your struts are under warranty. If you have the dealer install your springs, then they will also be covered. If your struts wear out within the warranty period, they'll be replaced.

Stiffer springs will wear out the struts faster, but so will more spirited driving. The amount of strut lifespan that you lose will be pretty negligible.
Old Aug 12, 2004 | 11:51 PM
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Just get the Shocks, they're stiffer, and made to work with the TRD springs specifically. I just got my TRD spring/shocks.... MAN there stiff.... and handling is improved drastically.
Old Aug 13, 2004 | 12:20 AM
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How much are people paying for the springs/struts? I was quoted $4500 installed, but that seems a bit high.
Old Aug 13, 2004 | 12:28 AM
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WOAH WHAT? $4500 installed? I'd call that more than a bit high. I don't know about struts, but I can get the springs for about $480 installed across town. My dealer (a bunch of idiots) wants about $900 total.
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Originally Posted by Dana278
WOAH WHAT? $4500 installed? I'd call that more than a bit high. I don't know about struts, but I can get the springs for about $480 installed across town. My dealer (a bunch of idiots) wants about $900 total.
Well, might just be an especially shady dealer. I've read elsewhere that the S/C is supposed to be about $3400 installed, but this guy told me it would be about $6000... seemed a little crazy that S/C, struts, and springs would add ten grand to the price of a $16 K car.
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Originally Posted by neverspeakawordagain
How much are people paying for the springs/struts? I was quoted $4500 installed, but that seems a bit high.
Come to our dealership, We will only charge you half that!!!

Nowhere neer that price...I suspect you added an extra "0" on the end of the real price when typing!!God I hope so!
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Any lowering springs no matter how little the drop will wear out a stock shock or strut faster. You lose 1" - 2" of shock travel when you lower your vehicle. This wears out your shocks quicker. Go ask any reputable speed shop and they will tell you it is much better to get a shock/strut designed for a lowered suspension, than to continue using your stock equipment. Tokico's are bad ___ and they are pretty in-expensive. I had them on my CRX and my Neon and it was like night and day compared to the stockers!!!
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Any lowering springs no matter how little the drop will wear out a stock shock or strut faster. You lose 1" - 2" of shock travel when you lower your vehicle. This wears out your shocks quicker. Go ask any reputable speed shop and they will tell you it is much better to get a shock/strut designed for a lowered suspension, than to continue using your stock equipment. Tokico's are bad ___ and they are pretty in-expensive. I had them on my CRX and my Neon and it was like night and day compared to the stockers!!!



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