View Poll Results: Which is your personal favorite??
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Super or Turbo???
I have owned both types of cars. I has a 91 Eagle Talon TSi AWD which has a turbo on it and a 98 Buick Regal GS which had an Eaton roots type supercharger.
I personally like turbos better. They have less parasitic loss and can make more boost in a street application. They use exhaust gas to spin the turbine but are not a huge restriction on the exhaust. A supercharger on the other hand robs the engine of horse power to make horsepower. The blower that was on my Regal robbed the motor of 40 HP so it could make an extra 40 HP over the NA version (so in reality it made 80 HP, but you only got 40 extra).
Plus the sound of a BOV on a turbo is a lot cooler and the small hiss of a bypass valve on a supercharger. But the supercharger makes a much cooler noise when it is being used.
I personally like turbos better. They have less parasitic loss and can make more boost in a street application. They use exhaust gas to spin the turbine but are not a huge restriction on the exhaust. A supercharger on the other hand robs the engine of horse power to make horsepower. The blower that was on my Regal robbed the motor of 40 HP so it could make an extra 40 HP over the NA version (so in reality it made 80 HP, but you only got 40 extra).
Plus the sound of a BOV on a turbo is a lot cooler and the small hiss of a bypass valve on a supercharger. But the supercharger makes a much cooler noise when it is being used.
Well, considering you have an Auto, I would think the SC would be better for you. A manual would be helpfull to keep a turbo in the high RPMS for full effect, where the SC makes less max HP but increases throughout the entire RPM band.
Originally Posted by florencescion
I have owned both types of cars. I has a 91 Eagle Talon TSi AWD which has a turbo on it and a 98 Buick Regal GS which had an Eaton roots type supercharger.
I personally like turbos better. They have less parasitic loss and can make more boost in a street application. They use exhaust gas to spin the turbine but are not a huge restriction on the exhaust. A supercharger on the other hand robs the engine of horse power to make horsepower. The blower that was on my Regal robbed the motor of 40 HP so it could make an extra 40 HP over the NA version (so in reality it made 80 HP, but you only got 40 extra).
Plus the sound of a BOV on a turbo is a lot cooler and the small hiss of a bypass valve on a supercharger. But the supercharger makes a much cooler noise when it is being used.
I personally like turbos better. They have less parasitic loss and can make more boost in a street application. They use exhaust gas to spin the turbine but are not a huge restriction on the exhaust. A supercharger on the other hand robs the engine of horse power to make horsepower. The blower that was on my Regal robbed the motor of 40 HP so it could make an extra 40 HP over the NA version (so in reality it made 80 HP, but you only got 40 extra).
Plus the sound of a BOV on a turbo is a lot cooler and the small hiss of a bypass valve on a supercharger. But the supercharger makes a much cooler noise when it is being used.
My last car was a supra turbo. I cut my teeth on turbo engines, but I ready for something different, so it will be supercharger for me. Maybe twin-charging down the road :D
TRD supercharger first, then possible a turbo or better supercharger after my warranty runs out, depending on prices and what not. I'm still getting some aftermarket pulleys for it and increase the blowing goodness of the TRD SC
Originally Posted by dmitri
A medium to large turbo helps some 4 bangers in the top end.. but since the redline on this car is around 6k, I say supercharger.
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My second car had a turbo charger and I liked the sounds it made. It wasn't the fastest car, nor the best looking, but it would handle and ride so much better than most cars do today (it was an '85 Benz 300D; inline 5cyl diesel). I will most likely go the turbo route when I save up some more cash.
Originally Posted by hawkeye
Originally Posted by florencescion
I have owned both types of cars. I has a 91 Eagle Talon TSi AWD which has a turbo on it and a 98 Buick Regal GS which had an Eaton roots type supercharger.
I personally like turbos better. They have less parasitic loss and can make more boost in a street application. They use exhaust gas to spin the turbine but are not a huge restriction on the exhaust. A supercharger on the other hand robs the engine of horse power to make horsepower. The blower that was on my Regal robbed the motor of 40 HP so it could make an extra 40 HP over the NA version (so in reality it made 80 HP, but you only got 40 extra).
Plus the sound of a BOV on a turbo is a lot cooler and the small hiss of a bypass valve on a supercharger. But the supercharger makes a much cooler noise when it is being used.
I personally like turbos better. They have less parasitic loss and can make more boost in a street application. They use exhaust gas to spin the turbine but are not a huge restriction on the exhaust. A supercharger on the other hand robs the engine of horse power to make horsepower. The blower that was on my Regal robbed the motor of 40 HP so it could make an extra 40 HP over the NA version (so in reality it made 80 HP, but you only got 40 extra).
Plus the sound of a BOV on a turbo is a lot cooler and the small hiss of a bypass valve on a supercharger. But the supercharger makes a much cooler noise when it is being used.
My last car was a supra turbo. I cut my teeth on turbo engines, but I ready for something different, so it will be supercharger for me. Maybe twin-charging down the road :D
Basically, what its going to boil down to is, do you want to be 50 state legal, and do you care about your warranty.
Supercharger for reliability and daily driving. A supercharger will produce far less heat than a turbocharger that sits right near the exhaust and requires far less piping than a turbocharger. Without the need to tap into the exhaust and the resulting heat soak, an intercooler is only truly necessary on high boost applications. From there, we have reliability from the simplicity of a supercharger.
In terms of daily driving with stop and go traffic and travel at low rpms, a supercharger would be best suited for this application over a turbocharger for its quicker response. I do not want to worry about turbo lag when I take a corner in spirited driving and having the boost come on unexpectedly. In terms of getting around town, do you really want to wait 5 minutes for a turbo to cool down after driving around every single time? Failure to do so will lead to the oil in the turbo getting coked and clogging the return line. While turbo timers are available, that is just another item that must be purchased for the whole system to work effectively.
I am glad that TRD is spending their time developing the supercharger application for the tC if that means a more reliable product down the line. I value reliability over break-neck performance and do not wish to grenade my engine after adding forced induction.
In terms of daily driving with stop and go traffic and travel at low rpms, a supercharger would be best suited for this application over a turbocharger for its quicker response. I do not want to worry about turbo lag when I take a corner in spirited driving and having the boost come on unexpectedly. In terms of getting around town, do you really want to wait 5 minutes for a turbo to cool down after driving around every single time? Failure to do so will lead to the oil in the turbo getting coked and clogging the return line. While turbo timers are available, that is just another item that must be purchased for the whole system to work effectively.
I am glad that TRD is spending their time developing the supercharger application for the tC if that means a more reliable product down the line. I value reliability over break-neck performance and do not wish to grenade my engine after adding forced induction.
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