[quote=TCpete;3750239]no. oem wheels should not be run with aftermarket lug nuts. the seating designs are different. anyone running this kind of combo is not very bright and only a matter of time before the vibrations from improper seating will shear the threads and snap the wheel off. this is a stupid move.

idk what u mean out of this statement "this is a stupid move" if u trying to mean that because i did it let me tell u i never had no problems with my aftermarket lug nuts and my stock wheels... so as long they tight my wheels really well and no problem for me, with no vibration of improper seating or w.e u said in my case i had them rolling like that for over a year before i got these rims that i have now so whoever wants to get aftermarket lug nuts just make sure whats the proper lug nut u can get for ur wheel thats what i did

 

No, i'm sure we're just giving our opinion on it being stupid move.
In MOST cases aftermarket lugs on stock rims is NOT a good idea unless u like your rims fallin off while your rolling.

BUT Its good it worked for you but i've heard and seen in my point of view, didnt turn out so well.

and o wow found the IC on the mishimoto site i'll probably jump on that deal.

 

this is not because YOU did it, or because YOU never had problems. its because mechanically you are asking for trouble.

let this diagram serve as an example.


the tc OEM wheels use a "mag type seat" as illustrated above in the last row on the right. you can even use the OEM lugs nuts off a tc and compare the design which is a mag design also to the diagram above as a reference.

now, almost all lug nuts designed with aftermarket intentions use hex conical or spherical seating. any lug nut compatible with the tc thread is pretty much going to be conial because spherical is out dated and not used anymore. even on wheel designs only going back to the late 90s.

if you also pay attention to your stock tc wheels the MAG design serves its purpose of helping to center the wheel on the hub(the hub should do this also but on the tc it doesnt do much, only to make wheel designs more compatible when you swap for aftermarket really).

so using anything BUT a mag design really is actually NOT helping to center the wheel because the mag design acts like a mini hub centric ring AND because using any other type of nut with a different design really just puts more stress on the lugs nut then needed. therefore tightening them more to help keep your wheel stable + on the car rather then just on the car is the only option. just look at the surface area also the lug nut and rim seating and its obvious there is a huge amount of surface loss between the large bore of a mag seating VS the conical design seating of lug nut. im willing to bet millions those red lug nuts you had are probably conical and not MAG seated. you probably didnt have them on long enough to notice prolonged effects or damage. but eventually that stress will take its tole on the crappy oem studs. this also causes the lug nuts to loosen up over time because of the vibrations caused by a wheel not probably placed on a hub or stud.

now applying what you just learned... re-analyze the given situation and LMK if you think its not stupid.

class dismissed kids

 

Would it be alright to run "Mag Type Hex Nut W/Flat Washer?"

 

lol yes, thats what the stock oem lug nut is!!!!

i doubt anyone makes an aftermarket colored MTHN. your better off just painting it if your that desperate for a change of color. i know they sell them in black also. but usually its that chrome/silver finish.

 

wow i got my notes teacher... thanks for the class
getting serious again i know what ur saiying but like i told u i had them for more than a year and if it is like u saying i never saw any difference on the lug nut like defects of damages to the conical part of the nut because like u said they were conical lug nuts ...and trust me i used to race my ____ a lot at the hang out so at least some kind of difference i would notice on them like the ones i have now they do look bad and sometimes when i dont tight it right it gives me vibration but not a big deal... but anyways thanks for ur class again i apreciated

 

Meh painting lug nuts doesn't sound to appealing. How a out powdercoat? Would that hold up?

 

racing at 27/okeechobee and in front of the TSE hangout off the palmetto in hialeah and using that as a your basis.............

btw say hi to your friend in red cobalt ss you set up to race me that was "stock"...

 

anyways how do you like the 35r? im still deciding if i am gonna get one or jus get a gt3076r.

 

lol u funny pete that was the first time he raced his cobalt I think... and of course that was completely stock u wanna race him again so u can see what a non stock ss will do with yours??? Because u couldn't keep up with him doesn't mean he was not running stock is because ur car couldn't do no more on that race

 

Pretty smooth I love it... at least what I spend for it was worth it....

 

its funny how a "stock" cobalt sounded like an open dump srt-4 .....and since later on a few people told me the cobalt wasnt stock....

and no i dont need another race. watching your little face along with his as i kept up with you guys easy until about 90 form the 20-30 rolls was good enough for me. and its pretty weak IMO trying to set up runs on a boosted car with an NA car... thats some bench racing type moves lol and dont act all proud about it. i wouldnt be proud if an NA tc kept up with an FI car. you guys practically begged me for a race for 10 min. before i said fine just so ya'll would leave me alone. I even said it from the get go the cobalt would win. so really... who looks worse on the out come. not me

LMAO @ YOU thinking i had a short shifter or spraying because i was shifting fast...

 

lulz a "slowbalt" was it the turbo ones or supercharged ones...not that it matters or anything cuz either way its a "slowbalt" but lmk if u want me to clean it up ;-)

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ill race any of ur friends u ricer

 

Edited your first post.
Quit trying to sell ____ in the wrong place.

 

ur funny what car of my friends u wanna race Mr.???

 

spraying???? jajaja plzzz i guess u forgot i had nitrous for about 2 years right?? i know what a scion could do with spray i try it a lot, besides that i wont ever in my life begged u or anybody else to race i've been in a lot of races to be crying just to see u race come on.... if u already forgot that was all the ppl around at the tse meet who wanted to see the race... besides that about the race u still lost even though u had to take ur friend out of the car plus, the spare tire, and w.e tools u had in the car... just to keep up with him until 90mph cause at the beggining of the race u were not even keeping up a car behind us so... idk either the ss is blessed or my friend knew how to drive it... but dont worry all cars are different u dont have to get frustrated at that its the matter of races ones u win others u lose...

anyways i didnt got to this forum to make enemies just to get friends and good opinions whenever i need them but i can see now i just get a bunch of hater ppl in here except the few that commented good stuff but still this forum is kinda fu(k up, it doesnt seems like a scion family community no more

 

if u think this is harsh lulz man im sorry but this is one of the softest forums im on as far as ripping...go on any forum where u dnt get banned from saying a damn curse word or jus by pwning ppl n u will c how soft this forum is either way since he kept us with that slowbalt til 90 n yes even though he lost the car is SLOW...

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i wouldnt say softest forums, everything just gets deleted ='(

 

yeah and everyone from TSE told me for roughly 1 to 1.5 of those years that NOS bottle was empty as fuuuu because you wanted to win points at car shows .. i love snitches for this!!

and really??? you and your boy and your other friend didnt straight up ask me to run?????? if ya'll did not ask then why would i bother racing??? seriously!!!... no one at that meet egged me on other then YOU and your boy. that makes no makes for group of circle jerks with slow cars to ask me for a race when everyone was just chilling and then you and your boy come revving through lol . WHY DONT YOU POST THAT VID??? i know you took vids of the runs i literally watched you as you did it.... ill let that speak for itself.

and im sorry i didnt take anything out of the car..WOW!! i didnt know anyone there (no would i want to) other then checho. so why would i leave my expensive ___ tools or anything else with anyone or even checho + a tire etc etc thats ridiculous... that sounds like more excuses and BS coming from you lol... seriously DOES THAT MAKE SENSE to empty my car right there for a stupid race and leave my tool and hydro jack laying around at a meet for a race????

also... infact i would get the jump and ya'll were the ones who got left behind until the boost kicked in and the cobalt finally passed lol.. again. POST THAT VID ...

and that night you told me your friend "just got" that car and that you were teaching him how to drive... so what is it? does he know or not know or just another side track excuse? dude you bragged about how much of a good driver you are YET why did you ask me if i had a short shifter or any other mods????? if your so tc savy and such an experienced racer (lol) then why ask such dumb ?s ?

i'd just stop posting anymore stuff. your story has alot of empty holes and things that dont make sense. PLUS everyone knows your a liar already. You go to shows and brag about your car and all the parts you have yet everything on it is fake .... why lie? you honestly think people are that stupid?

and no one here is hating lol... but no one here is stupid either.

keep that ish real son!