is tc real build by japan?
12-15-2005, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by eumylove
TC was designed by maserati and made in Japan.
12-15-2005, 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by eumylove
TC was designed by maserati and made in Japan.
incorrect as previously stated... i have no idea where you got that information from, it was another car for Chrysler...
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The XB and the XA are models that Japan was selling before scion even came out.
Originally Posted by eumylove
They are made 100 percent in Japan which means 100 percent reliablity.
12-15-2005, 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SquallLHeart
are you serious?
"I'll believe ya when me sh*t turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet." -Super TroopersIt's supposedly Toyota's shot at the JDM Integra Type-S.
If it's a shot at the Integra, it's got to be a JDM car right? They're probably not going to be bringing the tC to Japan so it'll probably be the next generation Celica.
Originally Posted by On Edmunds.com 8/12, they
WHISPERS: Toyota Planning New 250-hp Scion tC
Date Posted 08-11-2005
TOKYO — The grapevine in Japan is whispering about a hot, new 250-horsepower pure sport coupe from Toyota, coming next year, which would also double as a new Celica in Japan.
Japan's moles say they've uncovered secret plans for a new pure sport coupe from Toyota, apparently based around the Scion tC. The unnamed model, due in 2006, has 2.4-liter power, like the tC, yet is good for a reputed 250 horsepower.
Toyota is aiming at Honda's stellar Integra Type R (the more exotic, faster version of America's Acura RSX). And the idea would also be to inject some extra speed and enthusiast muscle into the tC.
America will soon bid farewell to the Celica, so this new 250-hp sport coupe would be a welcome replacement. Across in Japan, the talk is Toyota would rebadge it as the eighth-generation Celica.
While the Celica as we know it is 1.8-liter, the story goes that this new model would jump up to a special high-performance 2.0-liter motor, which may be called 2AZ-GE.
What this means to you: Biggest problem with Scion? No power. Thus, this super tC sounds super-cool; let's hope it makes it into the showrooms here.
Date Posted 08-11-2005
TOKYO — The grapevine in Japan is whispering about a hot, new 250-horsepower pure sport coupe from Toyota, coming next year, which would also double as a new Celica in Japan.
Japan's moles say they've uncovered secret plans for a new pure sport coupe from Toyota, apparently based around the Scion tC. The unnamed model, due in 2006, has 2.4-liter power, like the tC, yet is good for a reputed 250 horsepower.
Toyota is aiming at Honda's stellar Integra Type R (the more exotic, faster version of America's Acura RSX). And the idea would also be to inject some extra speed and enthusiast muscle into the tC.
America will soon bid farewell to the Celica, so this new 250-hp sport coupe would be a welcome replacement. Across in Japan, the talk is Toyota would rebadge it as the eighth-generation Celica.
While the Celica as we know it is 1.8-liter, the story goes that this new model would jump up to a special high-performance 2.0-liter motor, which may be called 2AZ-GE.
What this means to you: Biggest problem with Scion? No power. Thus, this super tC sounds super-cool; let's hope it makes it into the showrooms here.
12-15-2005, 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by kungpaosamuraiii
Originally Posted by SquallLHeart
are you serious?
"I'll believe ya when me sh*t turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet." -Super TroopersIt's supposedly Toyota's shot at the JDM Integra Type-S.
If it's a shot at the Integra, it's got to be a JDM car right? They're probably not going to be bringing the tC to Japan so it'll probably be the next generation Celica.
Originally Posted by On Edmunds.com 8/12, they
WHISPERS: Toyota Planning New 250-hp Scion tC
Date Posted 08-11-2005
TOKYO — The grapevine in Japan is whispering about a hot, new 250-horsepower pure sport coupe from Toyota, coming next year, which would also double as a new Celica in Japan.
Japan's moles say they've uncovered secret plans for a new pure sport coupe from Toyota, apparently based around the Scion tC. The unnamed model, due in 2006, has 2.4-liter power, like the tC, yet is good for a reputed 250 horsepower.
Toyota is aiming at Honda's stellar Integra Type R (the more exotic, faster version of America's Acura RSX). And the idea would also be to inject some extra speed and enthusiast muscle into the tC.
America will soon bid farewell to the Celica, so this new 250-hp sport coupe would be a welcome replacement. Across in Japan, the talk is Toyota would rebadge it as the eighth-generation Celica.
While the Celica as we know it is 1.8-liter, the story goes that this new model would jump up to a special high-performance 2.0-liter motor, which may be called 2AZ-GE.
What this means to you: Biggest problem with Scion? No power. Thus, this super tC sounds super-cool; let's hope it makes it into the showrooms here.
Date Posted 08-11-2005
TOKYO — The grapevine in Japan is whispering about a hot, new 250-horsepower pure sport coupe from Toyota, coming next year, which would also double as a new Celica in Japan.
Japan's moles say they've uncovered secret plans for a new pure sport coupe from Toyota, apparently based around the Scion tC. The unnamed model, due in 2006, has 2.4-liter power, like the tC, yet is good for a reputed 250 horsepower.
Toyota is aiming at Honda's stellar Integra Type R (the more exotic, faster version of America's Acura RSX). And the idea would also be to inject some extra speed and enthusiast muscle into the tC.
America will soon bid farewell to the Celica, so this new 250-hp sport coupe would be a welcome replacement. Across in Japan, the talk is Toyota would rebadge it as the eighth-generation Celica.
While the Celica as we know it is 1.8-liter, the story goes that this new model would jump up to a special high-performance 2.0-liter motor, which may be called 2AZ-GE.
What this means to you: Biggest problem with Scion? No power. Thus, this super tC sounds super-cool; let's hope it makes it into the showrooms here.
12-15-2005, 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by eumylove
TC was designed by maserati and made in Japan.
The XB and the XA are models that Japan was selling before scion even came out.
They are made 100 percent in Japan which means 100 percent reliablity.
Hope this helps
The XB and the XA are models that Japan was selling before scion even came out.
They are made 100 percent in Japan which means 100 percent reliablity.
Hope this helps
12-15-2005, 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by gjpjr84
Originally Posted by eumylove
TC was designed by maserati and made in Japan.
The XB and the XA are models that Japan was selling before scion even came out.
They are made 100 percent in Japan which means 100 percent reliablity.
Hope this helps
The XB and the XA are models that Japan was selling before scion even came out.
They are made 100 percent in Japan which means 100 percent reliablity.
Hope this helps
12-15-2005, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by kungpaosamuraiii
Never heard of the rumored 250 hp Scion coupe?
It's supposedly Toyota's shot at the JDM Integra Type-S.
If it's a shot at the Integra, it's got to be a JDM car right? They're probably not going to be bringing the tC to Japan so it'll probably be the next generation Celica.
It's supposedly Toyota's shot at the JDM Integra Type-S.
If it's a shot at the Integra, it's got to be a JDM car right? They're probably not going to be bringing the tC to Japan so it'll probably be the next generation Celica.
Originally Posted by On Edmunds.com 8/12, they
WHISPERS: Toyota Planning New 250-hp Scion tC
Date Posted 08-11-2005
TOKYO — The grapevine in Japan is whispering about a hot, new 250-horsepower pure sport coupe from Toyota, coming next year, which would also double as a new Celica in Japan.
Japan's moles say they've uncovered secret plans for a new pure sport coupe from Toyota, apparently based around the Scion tC. The unnamed model, due in 2006, has 2.4-liter power, like the tC, yet is good for a reputed 250 horsepower.
Toyota is aiming at Honda's stellar Integra Type R (the more exotic, faster version of America's Acura RSX). And the idea would also be to inject some extra speed and enthusiast muscle into the tC.
America will soon bid farewell to the Celica, so this new 250-hp sport coupe would be a welcome replacement. Across in Japan, the talk is Toyota would rebadge it as the eighth-generation Celica.
While the Celica as we know it is 1.8-liter, the story goes that this new model would jump up to a special high-performance 2.0-liter motor, which may be called 2AZ-GE.
What this means to you: Biggest problem with Scion? No power. Thus, this super tC sounds super-cool; let's hope it makes it into the showrooms here.
Date Posted 08-11-2005
TOKYO — The grapevine in Japan is whispering about a hot, new 250-horsepower pure sport coupe from Toyota, coming next year, which would also double as a new Celica in Japan.
Japan's moles say they've uncovered secret plans for a new pure sport coupe from Toyota, apparently based around the Scion tC. The unnamed model, due in 2006, has 2.4-liter power, like the tC, yet is good for a reputed 250 horsepower.
Toyota is aiming at Honda's stellar Integra Type R (the more exotic, faster version of America's Acura RSX). And the idea would also be to inject some extra speed and enthusiast muscle into the tC.
America will soon bid farewell to the Celica, so this new 250-hp sport coupe would be a welcome replacement. Across in Japan, the talk is Toyota would rebadge it as the eighth-generation Celica.
While the Celica as we know it is 1.8-liter, the story goes that this new model would jump up to a special high-performance 2.0-liter motor, which may be called 2AZ-GE.
What this means to you: Biggest problem with Scion? No power. Thus, this super tC sounds super-cool; let's hope it makes it into the showrooms here.
12-15-2005, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by SquallLHeart
Never heard of the rumored 250 hp Scion coupe? It's supposedly Toyota's shot at the JDM Integra Type-S. If it's a shot at the Integra, it's got to be a JDM car right? They're probably not going to be bringing the tC to Japan so it'll probably be the next generation Celica. oh i've heard of it... and just because it's shooting at the integra means it's JDM?? right..... Edmunds.com 8/12, they"]WHISPERS: Toyota Planning New 250-hp Scion tC Date Posted 08-11-2005 TOKYO — The grapevine in Japan is whispering about a hot, new 250-horsepower pure sport coupe from Toyota, coming next year, which would also double as a new Celica in Japan. Japan's moles say they've uncovered secret plans for a new pure sport coupe from Toyota, apparently based around the Scion tC. The unnamed model, due in 2006, has 2.4-liter power, like the tC, yet is good for a reputed 250 horsepower. Toyota is aiming at Honda's stellar Integra Type R (the more exotic, faster version of America's Acura RSX). And the idea would also be to inject some extra speed and enthusiast muscle into the tC. America will soon bid farewell to the Celica, so this new 250-hp sport coupe would be a welcome replacement. Across in Japan, the talk is Toyota would rebadge it as the eighth-generation Celica. While the Celica as we know it is 1.8-liter, the story goes that this new model would jump up to a special high-performance 2.0-liter motor, which may be called 2AZ-GE. What this means to you: Biggest problem with Scion? No power. Thus, this super tC sounds super-cool; let's hope it makes it into the showrooms here. really.. so the same exact tC we have is going to be a JDM celica? i don't see that in the report... though based on the scion tC, it does not specify it being one. thus your previously stated rumor is invalid. please get your facts straight before stating something. (how else do you think that one poster got the "designed by Maserati" from? it was invalid statements without proper facts.) thank you for trying though. that announcement is old news to me.
Edmunds.com 8/12, they"]WHISPERS: Toyota Planning New 250-hp Scion tC Date Posted 08-11-2005 TOKYO — The grapevine in Japan is whispering about a hot, new 250-horsepower pure sport coupe from Toyota, coming next year, which would also double as a new Celica in Japan. Japan's moles say they've uncovered secret plans for a new pure sport coupe from Toyota, apparently based around the Scion tC. The unnamed model, due in 2006, has 2.4-liter power, like the tC, yet is good for a reputed 250 horsepower. Toyota is aiming at Honda's stellar Integra Type R (the more exotic, faster version of America's Acura RSX). And the idea would also be to inject some extra speed and enthusiast muscle into the tC. America will soon bid farewell to the Celica, so this new 250-hp sport coupe would be a welcome replacement. Across in Japan, the talk is Toyota would rebadge it as the eighth-generation Celica. While the Celica as we know it is 1.8-liter, the story goes that this new model would jump up to a special high-performance 2.0-liter motor, which may be called 2AZ-GE. What this means to you: Biggest problem with Scion? No power. Thus, this super tC sounds super-cool; let's hope it makes it into the showrooms here. really.. so the same exact tC we have is going to be a JDM celica? i don't see that in the report... though based on the scion tC, it does not specify it being one. thus your previously stated rumor is invalid. please get your facts straight before stating something. (how else do you think that one poster got the "designed by Maserati" from? it was invalid statements without proper facts.) thank you for trying though. that announcement is old news to me.jk i swear.
12-15-2005, 06:40 AM
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What I think will happen...
Rumor has it Toyota has a Corolla hatchback with all-wheel drive turbo at around 250 hp that won't come here...as a Toyota. This could fall under the scion model.
Also the Celica is still being made elsewhere in the world, and an 8th generation is now due. I could also see this coming to the usdm under Scion. I can see a tuned version of the 2az-fe for the Celica. 2az-fe with vvti-l with slightly lower compression on compared to the previous celica gt-s so it runs on regular gas. As long as it has over 190 hp AND 160 of torque AND is under 2700, it would be an extremely balanced and agile car.
Rumor has it Toyota has a Corolla hatchback with all-wheel drive turbo at around 250 hp that won't come here...as a Toyota. This could fall under the scion model.
Also the Celica is still being made elsewhere in the world, and an 8th generation is now due. I could also see this coming to the usdm under Scion. I can see a tuned version of the 2az-fe for the Celica. 2az-fe with vvti-l with slightly lower compression on compared to the previous celica gt-s so it runs on regular gas. As long as it has over 190 hp AND 160 of torque AND is under 2700, it would be an extremely balanced and agile car.
12-15-2005, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SquallLHeart
oh i've heard of it... and just because it's shooting at the integra means it's JDM?? right.....
really.. so the same exact tC we have is going to be a JDM celica? i don't see that in the report... though based on the scion tC, it does not specify it being one. thus your previously stated rumor is invalid. please get your facts straight before stating something. (how else do you think that one poster got the "designed by Maserati" from? it was invalid statements without proper facts.) thank you for trying though. that announcement is old news to me.
I know what you're saying and I didn't mean to bellicose in the nature of my post.
It's really just a rumor.
See, the report says ^^ that. But that reports what was explicitly 'leaked' and from there, people twist the story a little bit and that's how it became the story of the tC being the next JDM Celica.
Anyways, there's no way a rumor can be invalid. A rumor is a rumor - what it isn't is truth.
That report talks about the next Celica being aimed at the JDM Integra. If it said the next Celica would be aimed at the RSX then it wouldn't have to be a JDM tC becoming the Celica (this is getting convoluted.) The report also says the next ITR killer from Toyota would possibly be an upgrade on the 2AZ to have a GE head. It also says a killer coupe based on the tC. The xA and xB is said to be "based on" the iST and bB, respectively (as they're not exact clones.. almost, but a left driver conversion you know?) so it would only make sense for the next Celica to be a right driver tC.
It makes sense doesn't it? It's not necessarily true.
Again, just rumors.
I have to ask you now to get your facts straight. It's not really facts though, so much as nomenclature. I don't ask you to believe that the tC will be the next JDM Celica. I only ask you to consider that it could be.
Anyways, there are some parts that you forgot to bold:
WHISPERS: Toyota Planning New 250-hp Scion tC
Date Posted 08-11-2005
TOKYO — The grapevine in Japan is whispering about a hot, new 250-horsepower pure sport coupe from Toyota, coming next year, which would also double as a new Celica in Japan.
Japan's moles say they've uncovered secret plans for a new pure sport coupe from Toyota, apparently based around the Scion tC. The unnamed model, due in 2006, has 2.4-liter power, like the tC, yet is good for a reputed 250 horsepower.
Toyota is aiming at Honda's stellar Integra Type R [This is evidence that if the new coupe is a rebadged tC - it'd be a JDM model aimed at another JDM model. No car ever was meant to compete with another car not sold in the same nation](the more exotic, faster version of America's Acura RSX). And the idea would also be to inject some extra speed and enthusiast muscle into the tC.
America will soon bid farewell to the Celica, so this new 250-hp sport coupe would be a welcome replacement. Across in Japan, the talk is Toyota would rebadge it as the eighth-generation Celica.
While the Celica as we know it is 1.8-liter, the story goes that this new model would jump up to a special high-performance 2.0-liter motor, which may be called 2AZ-GE.
What this means to you: Biggest problem with Scion? No power. Thus, this super tC sounds super-cool; let's hope it makes it into the showrooms here.
Date Posted 08-11-2005
TOKYO — The grapevine in Japan is whispering about a hot, new 250-horsepower pure sport coupe from Toyota, coming next year, which would also double as a new Celica in Japan.
Japan's moles say they've uncovered secret plans for a new pure sport coupe from Toyota, apparently based around the Scion tC. The unnamed model, due in 2006, has 2.4-liter power, like the tC, yet is good for a reputed 250 horsepower.
Toyota is aiming at Honda's stellar Integra Type R [This is evidence that if the new coupe is a rebadged tC - it'd be a JDM model aimed at another JDM model. No car ever was meant to compete with another car not sold in the same nation](the more exotic, faster version of America's Acura RSX). And the idea would also be to inject some extra speed and enthusiast muscle into the tC.
America will soon bid farewell to the Celica, so this new 250-hp sport coupe would be a welcome replacement. Across in Japan, the talk is Toyota would rebadge it as the eighth-generation Celica.
While the Celica as we know it is 1.8-liter, the story goes that this new model would jump up to a special high-performance 2.0-liter motor, which may be called 2AZ-GE.
What this means to you: Biggest problem with Scion? No power. Thus, this super tC sounds super-cool; let's hope it makes it into the showrooms here.
So don't discount that it could be. By all means, be skeptical. Skepticism is often a good thing, but don't forget to be open-minded too.
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12-15-2005, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by surfcity40
Originally Posted by SquallLHeart
Never heard of the rumored 250 hp Scion coupe? It's supposedly Toyota's shot at the JDM Integra Type-S. If it's a shot at the Integra, it's got to be a JDM car right? They're probably not going to be bringing the tC to Japan so it'll probably be the next generation Celica. oh i've heard of it... and just because it's shooting at the integra means it's JDM?? right..... Edmunds.com 8/12, they"]WHISPERS: Toyota Planning New 250-hp Scion tC Date Posted 08-11-2005 TOKYO — The grapevine in Japan is whispering about a hot, new 250-horsepower pure sport coupe from Toyota, coming next year, which would also double as a new Celica in Japan. Japan's moles say they've uncovered secret plans for a new pure sport coupe from Toyota, apparently based around the Scion tC. The unnamed model, due in 2006, has 2.4-liter power, like the tC, yet is good for a reputed 250 horsepower. Toyota is aiming at Honda's stellar Integra Type R (the more exotic, faster version of America's Acura RSX). And the idea would also be to inject some extra speed and enthusiast muscle into the tC. America will soon bid farewell to the Celica, so this new 250-hp sport coupe would be a welcome replacement. Across in Japan, the talk is Toyota would rebadge it as the eighth-generation Celica. While the Celica as we know it is 1.8-liter, the story goes that this new model would jump up to a special high-performance 2.0-liter motor, which may be called 2AZ-GE. What this means to you: Biggest problem with Scion? No power. Thus, this super tC sounds super-cool; let's hope it makes it into the showrooms here. really.. so the same exact tC we have is going to be a JDM celica? i don't see that in the report... though based on the scion tC, it does not specify it being one. thus your previously stated rumor is invalid. please get your facts straight before stating something. (how else do you think that one poster got the "designed by Maserati" from? it was invalid statements without proper facts.) thank you for trying though. that announcement is old news to me.
Edmunds.com 8/12, they"]WHISPERS: Toyota Planning New 250-hp Scion tC Date Posted 08-11-2005 TOKYO — The grapevine in Japan is whispering about a hot, new 250-horsepower pure sport coupe from Toyota, coming next year, which would also double as a new Celica in Japan. Japan's moles say they've uncovered secret plans for a new pure sport coupe from Toyota, apparently based around the Scion tC. The unnamed model, due in 2006, has 2.4-liter power, like the tC, yet is good for a reputed 250 horsepower. Toyota is aiming at Honda's stellar Integra Type R (the more exotic, faster version of America's Acura RSX). And the idea would also be to inject some extra speed and enthusiast muscle into the tC. America will soon bid farewell to the Celica, so this new 250-hp sport coupe would be a welcome replacement. Across in Japan, the talk is Toyota would rebadge it as the eighth-generation Celica. While the Celica as we know it is 1.8-liter, the story goes that this new model would jump up to a special high-performance 2.0-liter motor, which may be called 2AZ-GE. What this means to you: Biggest problem with Scion? No power. Thus, this super tC sounds super-cool; let's hope it makes it into the showrooms here. really.. so the same exact tC we have is going to be a JDM celica? i don't see that in the report... though based on the scion tC, it does not specify it being one. thus your previously stated rumor is invalid. please get your facts straight before stating something. (how else do you think that one poster got the "designed by Maserati" from? it was invalid statements without proper facts.) thank you for trying though. that announcement is old news to me.jk i swear.
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really... is that necessary? you're doing nothing more than adding fuel to a fire. no one is wrong nor right. except perhaps you who just love to post and have nothing to add relevant to the topic. 
rumors will be rumors... and though it may or may not have some truth to it, it really is dependant on the person interpreting it to believe it or not. i am sorry if the nature of my post came out as hostile as well... just trying to get across my opinion. and the initial "rainbow sherbet" quote was more meant to be comedic than attacking.
sometimes we forget that there exists an ounce of hope for some things. others i have given up on. we'll just have to see in the upcoming years what's going to happen.
rumors will be rumors... and though it may or may not have some truth to it, it really is dependant on the person interpreting it to believe it or not. i am sorry if the nature of my post came out as hostile as well... just trying to get across my opinion. and the initial "rainbow sherbet" quote was more meant to be comedic than attacking.
Originally Posted by kungpaosamuraiii
I don't think anyone pwned anyone... It's really just a rumor.
I know what you're saying and I didn't mean to bellicose in the nature of my post.
It's really just a rumor.
So don't discount that it could be. By all means, be skeptical. Skepticism is often a good thing, but don't forget to be open-minded too.
I know what you're saying and I didn't mean to bellicose in the nature of my post.
It's really just a rumor.
So don't discount that it could be. By all means, be skeptical. Skepticism is often a good thing, but don't forget to be open-minded too.
12-15-2005, 07:58 PM
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I think some people are thinking that Toyota is just going to take a TC, swap the engine and throw a CELICA badge on it. Which could be possible, but I doubt it.
Think of it this way...the Volvo S40 is BASED on the Mazda6 platform. It doesn't mean they took a 6 and threw some Volvo badges on it...it just shares the same base. It seems more likely this is what Toyota will do w/ the Celica.
But my question is this: IF the Celica is a re-badged TC, does that mean no more Celica's at all in the US? Would Toyota really bank on the TC being the replacement for US? (I know they have plans for this already...but that's like Chevy saying the SSR is a replacement for the Camaro. Wrong!). I'm trying to think of other car companies that might have a situation with 2 models that are similar. I guess the Skyline/G35 is the closest. Do you think Toyota would really take a chance on 'elimnating' a name-brand that is extremely popular in this market and bank on a new one?
Think of it this way...the Volvo S40 is BASED on the Mazda6 platform. It doesn't mean they took a 6 and threw some Volvo badges on it...it just shares the same base. It seems more likely this is what Toyota will do w/ the Celica.
But my question is this: IF the Celica is a re-badged TC, does that mean no more Celica's at all in the US? Would Toyota really bank on the TC being the replacement for US? (I know they have plans for this already...but that's like Chevy saying the SSR is a replacement for the Camaro. Wrong!). I'm trying to think of other car companies that might have a situation with 2 models that are similar. I guess the Skyline/G35 is the closest. Do you think Toyota would really take a chance on 'elimnating' a name-brand that is extremely popular in this market and bank on a new one?
12-16-2005, 03:07 PM
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You know the scion tC platform isn't the best platform to design a true sports coupe. It's heavy and unbalanced. However I see a new trend in small car manufacturing nowadays. Even the new Civic Si is going to be significantly more heavy than its predecessors. Probably due to the safety features designed into the new Civics.
12-17-2005, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by eumylove
Sorry for the mis infor on the TC designer.
I got the insurance coverage by Geico and it said that it was designed by masarti
I got the insurance coverage by Geico and it said that it was designed by masarti
Not to be confused with the Toyota Scion tC. State Farm classifies my xB as Toyota Scion xB.