UV luminics....Not to happy with (Day 4)
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Originally Posted by Tomas
OK, let's get serious about lighting color and it's effects on visibility.
Here's a very good study of highway lighting at night, and the effects of lamp color on vision.
Note that at night, normal highway lighting conditions push the 'most visible' range into the
blue-green portion of the spectrum, and away from the normal high-light-levels yellow-green
range.
Note also that the best visibility at night, in low light level conditions, is near the boundry of
the blue and green, or a blue-green color.
At NO time is the visibility good in the ultra blue through violet to ultraviolet end of the
spectrum or the orange through red to infrared end of the spectrum.
The testing done for this study was very exacting, and fairly complete, and it was directed at
finding the absolute best lighting color(s) for nightime highway visibility.
AT NIGHT, reddish is out, orange is bad, yellow is marginal, green is slightly better, blue-green
is best, blue is not as good, ultra-blue is bad, purple/violet/ultraviolet is useless.
READ the study, look at the charts, understand the results, then we can talk intelligently.
It really is more than "Ooooohhh! Look at the pretty lights!!!"
Highway lighting color study (pdf) <===
Then, of course, there are the 12 percent of the population with color anomalies in their
vision...that's a different field, though.
Here's a very good study of highway lighting at night, and the effects of lamp color on vision.
Note that at night, normal highway lighting conditions push the 'most visible' range into the
blue-green portion of the spectrum, and away from the normal high-light-levels yellow-green
range.
Note also that the best visibility at night, in low light level conditions, is near the boundry of
the blue and green, or a blue-green color.
At NO time is the visibility good in the ultra blue through violet to ultraviolet end of the
spectrum or the orange through red to infrared end of the spectrum.
The testing done for this study was very exacting, and fairly complete, and it was directed at
finding the absolute best lighting color(s) for nightime highway visibility.
AT NIGHT, reddish is out, orange is bad, yellow is marginal, green is slightly better, blue-green
is best, blue is not as good, ultra-blue is bad, purple/violet/ultraviolet is useless.
READ the study, look at the charts, understand the results, then we can talk intelligently.
It really is more than "Ooooohhh! Look at the pretty lights!!!"
Highway lighting color study (pdf) <===
Then, of course, there are the 12 percent of the population with color anomalies in their
vision...that's a different field, though.
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another un happy luminic customer. i was holding off to say that "lucmic is a piece of crap". they came to the forum and left laughing all the way to the bank. i wonder if they will come back to defend their product.
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Originally Posted by engifineer
Originally Posted by Tomas
OK, let's get serious about lighting color and it's effects on visibility.
Here's a very good study of highway lighting at night, and the effects of lamp color on vision.
Note that at night, normal highway lighting conditions push the 'most visible' range into the
blue-green portion of the spectrum, and away from the normal high-light-levels yellow-green
range.
Note also that the best visibility at night, in low light level conditions, is near the boundry of
the blue and green, or a blue-green color.
At NO time is the visibility good in the ultra blue through violet to ultraviolet end of the
spectrum or the orange through red to infrared end of the spectrum.
The testing done for this study was very exacting, and fairly complete, and it was directed at
finding the absolute best lighting color(s) for nightime highway visibility.
AT NIGHT, reddish is out, orange is bad, yellow is marginal, green is slightly better, blue-green
is best, blue is not as good, ultra-blue is bad, purple/violet/ultraviolet is useless.
READ the study, look at the charts, understand the results, then we can talk intelligently.
It really is more than "Ooooohhh! Look at the pretty lights!!!"
Highway lighting color study (pdf) <===
Then, of course, there are the 12 percent of the population with color anomalies in their
vision...that's a different field, though.
Here's a very good study of highway lighting at night, and the effects of lamp color on vision.
Note that at night, normal highway lighting conditions push the 'most visible' range into the
blue-green portion of the spectrum, and away from the normal high-light-levels yellow-green
range.
Note also that the best visibility at night, in low light level conditions, is near the boundry of
the blue and green, or a blue-green color.
At NO time is the visibility good in the ultra blue through violet to ultraviolet end of the
spectrum or the orange through red to infrared end of the spectrum.
The testing done for this study was very exacting, and fairly complete, and it was directed at
finding the absolute best lighting color(s) for nightime highway visibility.
AT NIGHT, reddish is out, orange is bad, yellow is marginal, green is slightly better, blue-green
is best, blue is not as good, ultra-blue is bad, purple/violet/ultraviolet is useless.
READ the study, look at the charts, understand the results, then we can talk intelligently.
It really is more than "Ooooohhh! Look at the pretty lights!!!"
Highway lighting color study (pdf) <===
Then, of course, there are the 12 percent of the population with color anomalies in their
vision...that's a different field, though.
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At our shop we just got in our first batch of H.I.D. kits in. We are selling them online for about 50 bucks a peice over what the owner paid for them. (50 bucks over including shipping. You know how ebay store's works, sell at cost and rape on shipping. Profit is made somewhere!)
Any way, not advertising the shop but just wanted to throw in the option I went with. Installed a few days ago and the lightning is a TREMENDOUS difference. It's neat seeing things light up to white/blue rather than amber. I'm waiting on (affordable) projectors or a project to come out for me to put them in, however until then the amount of glare isn't as bad was expected, the hotspots seem to be at a strait angle.
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I paid (our cost) $150. I think it's worth it. Ballast life is rated at >3000 life but manufacturer claims don't really mean much.
Any way, not advertising the shop but just wanted to throw in the option I went with. Installed a few days ago and the lightning is a TREMENDOUS difference. It's neat seeing things light up to white/blue rather than amber. I'm waiting on (affordable) projectors or a project to come out for me to put them in, however until then the amount of glare isn't as bad was expected, the hotspots seem to be at a strait angle.
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I paid (our cost) $150. I think it's worth it. Ballast life is rated at >3000 life but manufacturer claims don't really mean much.
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I'd like to add the orange specs you see are because of two things: There is an orange street lamp nearby (look at it's reflection in the car), and there is also still the amber parking lights. Put my order with superbrightleds, hopefully it was shipped out on monday and can install them tomorrow.
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Now are the osram silverstars better than the sylvania?
What about these?
http://www.powerbulbs.co.uk/product....hFor=&PT_ID=79
What about these?
http://www.powerbulbs.co.uk/product....hFor=&PT_ID=79
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Originally Posted by bB-aym-y0urs
another un happy luminic customer. i was holding off to say that "lucmic is a piece of crap". they came to the forum and left laughing all the way to the bank. i wonder if they will come back to defend their product.
ill be honest, At night my UV do have that HID look, But i dont think there Safe, and on the website it tells u that they are for show only...
They are dangerous if you ask me, i Drive around with my high Beam silverstars on all the time, Because i just can not see..
ALSO the bulbs are the reason Why my headlights keep getting water in them, crappy Seal on the Bulb, and its really annoying...
They have a greeat look, but they are not bright to be safe, and They do get brighter after they burn for a few day's///
But they still suck, IMO
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Originally Posted by Rivulent
At our shop we just got in our first batch of H.I.D. kits in. We are selling them online for about 50 bucks a peice over what the owner paid for them. (50 bucks over including shipping. You know how ebay store's works, sell at cost and rape on shipping. Profit is made somewhere!)
Any way, not advertising the shop but just wanted to throw in the option I went with. Installed a few days ago and the lightning is a TREMENDOUS difference. It's neat seeing things light up to white/blue rather than amber. I'm waiting on (affordable) projectors or a project to come out for me to put them in, however until then the amount of glare isn't as bad was expected, the hotspots seem to be at a strait angle.
do you have the url link for the "shop" ???
I paid (our cost) $150. I think it's worth it. Ballast life is rated at >3000 life but manufacturer claims don't really mean much.
Any way, not advertising the shop but just wanted to throw in the option I went with. Installed a few days ago and the lightning is a TREMENDOUS difference. It's neat seeing things light up to white/blue rather than amber. I'm waiting on (affordable) projectors or a project to come out for me to put them in, however until then the amount of glare isn't as bad was expected, the hotspots seem to be at a strait angle.
do you have the url link for the "shop" ???
I paid (our cost) $150. I think it's worth it. Ballast life is rated at >3000 life but manufacturer claims don't really mean much.
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PM'd you a link to the ebay listing. I'd like to say I'm not trying to advertise anything, since I'm not a sponsor of any sort (except buying a few scionlife things 
).
EDIT: currently out of 9006/9008 bulbs anywho.
).EDIT: currently out of 9006/9008 bulbs anywho.
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I personally am fine with the stock lights. But if you want to go brighter or better visibility you may as well go with an HID retro with a good ballast and the proper harness. Most of the colored bulbs I see are just that: tinted bulbs with cheap seals that are overpriced. The ones Riv posted above look pretty nice as long as they dont blind other drivers.
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Originally Posted by engifineer
I personally am fine with the stock lights. But if you want to go brighter or better visibility you may as well go with an HID retro with a good ballast and the proper harness. Most of the colored bulbs I see are just that: tinted bulbs with cheap seals that are overpriced. The ones Riv posted above look pretty nice as long as they dont blind other drivers.
I have not seen my car as opposing traffic however I have yet to see high beam flash at me, although I haven't driven it much at night. Obviously there is more intense light all around, but the stock headlights seem to have the hotspots where they should be. That's not to say that projectors would not be better. A good projector would be nice.
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The HIR bulbs are a decent amount brighter than stock. I will try to take a picture tonight so you can see the difference. You can pick them up on ebay for $30 each. The ebay description details everything about the bulbs. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HIR-9...spagenameZWDVW
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i got the luminics ultra white lights and they are sweet! i heard that the violet and blue are nice but no projection? click on my car domain page for pics of my luminics ultra white bulbs.!
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i am now running the 60 watt modfied highbeam bulbs in the lowbeams. Kind of weird how tC's come with 60 watt highbeams instead of the standard 65 watters i always used to see. So i just took the 60 watters and put them in lowbeam. and placed some 65 watters in the highbeam. Anyway, i can light up the road better than almost any car ive driven next to lately. well with exception of cars wtih OEM hid.