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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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Default why does xB have traction and vsc but the tC doesn't?

i'm just wondering, why would they give the xB traction control and vehicle stability control standard, and not even offer it on the tC?

even the rs 1.0 xA had some kind of traction control i think....

i don't know, it seems like the tC is the king of the pack, but it;s lacking this major feature
Old Mar 12, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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Why do you want trac or VSC on a sports car? If I want to race, I don't want the car slowing me down around turns and off the start!
Old Mar 12, 2005 | 01:08 PM
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first off the TC is a friggen camry in disguise, and seconds off they gave it becuase it fit the budget and was attractive. and 3rd the tc would meet price requirements with traction.
Old Mar 12, 2005 | 01:19 PM
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car manufacturers traction control systems just use the brakes or back off on the throttle to control the traction of the vehicle. now this makes sense for someone who will never open it up and have a little fun with their car. it would make more sense for most of us to get a better limited slip differential. Phantom Grip makes one for the tC now and i just emailed Quaife and they say they will prolly have one soon because the tC's differential is very similar to the MR-2 which they already produce.
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My RS1 xA has the traction control and VSC, with a switch to disable the traction control. Not everyone out there buys a tC to race, but it would be a nice option to disable the features whenever you want to race if they added those control systems to the tC.
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the xB has VSC on it because its higher than regular sedan center of gravity. TRAC was included because they don't include one without the other. the xA RS 1.0 got VSC because of its included sunroof. when they were first released the designers did not want to include a sunroof because they were unsure about adding the weight to the roof. so they got over it by adding VSC. it indirectly keeps you from tipping over(to a degree).

why not on the tC? because then you wouldn't have the beautiful price tag of 16,585. it would cost you a grand more at least.
Old Mar 12, 2005 | 03:48 PM
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it would just be so nice to have some type of traction control or limited slip diff, especially here in the winter. i dug my car out yesterday, took me an hour to do it by myself. it wasn't even in that much snow, it was just at a weird angle. or course the tire that needed to spin wouldn't...and that tire that had no resistance was spinning like crazy. from a design standpoint, the way the differential is setup isn't right...

oh yeah, it scared the crap out of me when i tried to reverse the car, i drive a 5 speed. the reverse is loud, like a whining noise, but when you have no traction, it's at full speed almost instantly, so there was this loud squeel/whine whenever i would put it in reverse, first time it happened, i though i stripped the gear, ha!
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Originally Posted by ska1188511
Why do you want trac or VSC on a sports car? If I want to race, I don't want the car slowing me down around turns and off the start!
You don't drive a sports car. That and you can turb traction control off in most cars, it's just an added saftey feature which I wanted when I got my car.

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first off the TC is a friggen camry in disguise, and seconds off they gave it becuase it fit the budget and was attractive. and 3rd the tc would meet price requirements with traction.
You're a retard, the tC shares nothing with the camry except the engine which is sourced form the Toyota Avensis. The tC is directly based off the Toyota Avensis. Don't come to the tC forums just to ____ on our car.
Old Mar 12, 2005 | 08:57 PM
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the tc and the camry are like distant cousins who met once at a family reunion. if you go back far enough, you find a connection, but it's not worth talking about. and yeah, it's not a sports car, but i love mine...
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i got a box and i drive with it off. it doesnt handle as good with if off but it seems alot faster.
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without it the box will flip over
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Originally Posted by TurboMe
without it the box will flip over
Please share your logic on that one! The box and xA are terrific autocrossers, with a very low center of gravity. Many assume that because of the high roofline it would be prone to tip overs. And we know what happens when we assume anything
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The reason the xB comes with traction control is because it comes standard with it in Japan. End of story.
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Originally Posted by jethro b
Originally Posted by TurboMe
without it the box will flip over
Please share your logic on that one! The box and xA are terrific autocrossers, with a very low center of gravity. Many assume that because of the high roofline it would be prone to tip overs. And we know what happens when we assume anything
u got something against me or something? its called a joke. Get a life.
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Originally Posted by TurboMe
Originally Posted by jethro b
Originally Posted by TurboMe
without it the box will flip over
Please share your logic on that one! The box and xA are terrific autocrossers, with a very low center of gravity. Many assume that because of the high roofline it would be prone to tip overs. And we know what happens when we assume anything
u got something against me or something? its called a joke. Get a life.
OOOOKAAAAY Whatever back at ya
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Originally Posted by itimebomb
the xB has VSC on it because its higher than regular sedan center of gravity. TRAC was included because they don't include one without the other. the xA RS 1.0 got VSC because of its included sunroof. when they were first released the designers did not want to include a sunroof because they were unsure about adding the weight to the roof. so they got over it by adding VSC. it indirectly keeps you from tipping over(to a degree).

why not on the tC? because then you wouldn't have the beautiful price tag of 16,585. it would cost you a grand more at least.

Very interesting knowledge.

Thank you.
Old Mar 13, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by xmetalx
first off the TC is a friggen camry in disguise.
Better to be a camry in disguise than an echo in disquise.
Old Mar 13, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain tC
Originally Posted by xmetalx
first off the TC is a friggen camry in disguise.
Better to be a camry in disguise than an echo in disquise.
thats is one of the most childish comments ive ever heard. u sound like your in second grade.
Old Mar 13, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain tC
Originally Posted by xmetalx
first off the TC is a friggen camry in disguise.
Better to be a camry in disguise than an echo in disquise.

Avensis in disguise vs. Echo Verso in disguise, just to be accurate.

Nothing wrong with either. I wish we got the ligher, more nimble Avensis here instead of the big honkin' Camry.

I wouldn't mind having an Avensis Verso, personally. It would be a more nimble and fuel efficient alternative for the Highlander for people who really do not need an SUV in any shape or form.


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But back to the subject at hand. I'd rather see the tC offered with an LSD than TRAC. It would be more appropriate for a sporty car. Nissan gives Sentra SE-R an LSD. Dodge includes one standard with the Neon SRT-4. I'm not sure what Toyota's aversion to LSD's is. AFAIK you can't even get one with their 4WD vehicles, only a locking diff (which is more effective, but can only be used in extreme circumstances)



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