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Dizzle, please stop showing your age/lack of know how. Stay in your thread.
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Um, you drive an automatic correct? Unless you are manually putting the car in gear (even though there is a stop before the limiter when doing so) you are not hitting the rev limiter. Automatic transmissions can wind out the gear under load or performance situations, but will not hit off the rev limiter.
Dizzle, please stop showing your age/lack of know how. Stay in your thread.
Dizzle, please stop showing your age/lack of know how. Stay in your thread.
You can shift an auto, But I dont do it on the daily.. I rather control my rpm's than my ecu doing it. please dont try to bash me with the "age/Lack of knowing" trick. And there is no stop before the rev limit "while shifting", and just because you dont believe me I will make a video tomorrow when its light out side.
If you don't want the "trick" pulled on you then don't come on here saying you beat the crap out of your car then wonder why no one takes you seriously. This video will be funny. Do you know the difference between a rev limiter and hitting red line?
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W/e you say bro. My car stays maintained by factory, Just because I hit my rev lim and WOT all the time doesnt mean I neglect my car.
Regardless if its redline/revlimiter or even a 2 step.. Im pretty sure all it does is cut off the fuel if im right to protect the engine from blowing up
http://www.preludeonline.com/f93/red...-limit-257144/
Regardless if its redline/revlimiter or even a 2 step.. Im pretty sure all it does is cut off the fuel if im right to protect the engine from blowing up
http://www.preludeonline.com/f93/red...-limit-257144/
Last edited by Dizzzle; Aug 27, 2010 at 03:52 AM.
What does a Honda Prelude have to do with a Scion tC? Even the posters in that thread show its worthless information.
WOT all the time will hurt your car in the long run, but what does anyone with car experience know to the great diz? Exactly. You've even gone back to almost admitting the first thing you started arguing, that its a fuel cut/shift point and not rev limiter.
Maintain by the factory? So you send it back to the factory every time it needs work? Interesting...... Note that Toyota tech's aren't even "factory" trained like they claim. Nearly no technicians in the field are "factory trained" its simply a selling point to the consumer. Most tech's are hired, then sit through 20 minute online training courses for specifics that you can click through.
/end useless unneeded argument with a child.
WOT all the time will hurt your car in the long run, but what does anyone with car experience know to the great diz? Exactly. You've even gone back to almost admitting the first thing you started arguing, that its a fuel cut/shift point and not rev limiter.
Maintain by the factory? So you send it back to the factory every time it needs work? Interesting...... Note that Toyota tech's aren't even "factory" trained like they claim. Nearly no technicians in the field are "factory trained" its simply a selling point to the consumer. Most tech's are hired, then sit through 20 minute online training courses for specifics that you can click through.
/end useless unneeded argument with a child.
/your involvement in this thread.
Spicy, arguing over the internet is just that...no one ever truely wins...everyone is just dumber because of it, even if you are right
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This says a lot right here. Dizzle it is hard on your car to consistantly bounce your car off of red line
/your involvement in this thread.
Spicy, arguing over the internet is just that...no one ever truely wins...everyone is just dumber because of it, even if you are right .
/your involvement in this thread.
Spicy, arguing over the internet is just that...no one ever truely wins...everyone is just dumber because of it, even if you are right
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Don't worry about WOT, so long as you're not just standing on the pedal and bouncing off the rev limiter for 5 minutes straight or downshifting from 5th to 2nd on the highway with the pedal down you'll be fine.
I run my car on the track at least 3 times a year (not including the autox trips) and from the end of the track's turn 9 all the way down the straightaway until turn 2 I'm at full WOT for anywhere between 10-15 seconds depending on how fast my exit from T9 is.
It's not so much about the position of the throttle or how open the throttle body is, it's about where in the rev range you are. The engine is built to be capable of running all the way through the rev range until it hits the factory set rev limiter.
If you do something silly like the 5th-to-2nd shift I mentioned below, you are forcing the engine to mechanically go beyond the rev limiter and potentially get into the damaging RPM ranges. Run the motor up to redline and it'll be fine. Run the motor past redline (without modifications to allow for greater RPM) and you'll hurt it.
I run my car on the track at least 3 times a year (not including the autox trips) and from the end of the track's turn 9 all the way down the straightaway until turn 2 I'm at full WOT for anywhere between 10-15 seconds depending on how fast my exit from T9 is.
It's not so much about the position of the throttle or how open the throttle body is, it's about where in the rev range you are. The engine is built to be capable of running all the way through the rev range until it hits the factory set rev limiter.
If you do something silly like the 5th-to-2nd shift I mentioned below, you are forcing the engine to mechanically go beyond the rev limiter and potentially get into the damaging RPM ranges. Run the motor up to redline and it'll be fine. Run the motor past redline (without modifications to allow for greater RPM) and you'll hurt it.
I go WOT often, not that the drive-by-wire's actually allowing it anyway.
Realize, that the more you press the go pedal the more likely parts are to wear out.
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Sorry to butt in your argument guys, but you are both pretty much wrong in some ways.
Rev limit does not just cut fuel on most cars, it affects ignition as well. You dont want to run full lean at wot and high rpm.
And you guys are arguing about whether it is a fuel/ignition cut or a rev limit... one is used to achieve the other. That is why it doesnt just stop at one rpm, rather it actually cuts power to the vehicle to perform the rev limit. Our car has to limiters: rev limit and a top speed limit.
Running WOT WILL NOT DO ONE THING TO YOUR CAR. Bouncing off the rev limiter all the time is not great for it, but you can do that with or without going WOT.
So keep it on what the OP asked and leave it at that now
Rev limit does not just cut fuel on most cars, it affects ignition as well. You dont want to run full lean at wot and high rpm.
And you guys are arguing about whether it is a fuel/ignition cut or a rev limit... one is used to achieve the other. That is why it doesnt just stop at one rpm, rather it actually cuts power to the vehicle to perform the rev limit. Our car has to limiters: rev limit and a top speed limit.
Running WOT WILL NOT DO ONE THING TO YOUR CAR. Bouncing off the rev limiter all the time is not great for it, but you can do that with or without going WOT.
So keep it on what the OP asked and leave it at that now
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