I was reading the posts this weekend and really didn't come up with a good answer. I drive my tC rather agressivly but when it comes to corners there is a lot of body roll and the rear end seems to want to get lose. So what should I do to (other then not drive agressivly ) to lessen the effects?

 

Uh... stiffer suspension parts. Strut brace, stiffer spring rate... I'd go with those.

 

Larger anti-sway bars will reduce body roll. I didn't know this was a mystery.

 

sway bars

 

the hotchkis sway bars are awesome. i had the trd rear bar and that was really good, but the hotchkis are on a diff level. i don't even have the rear one set on the stiffest setting and it's amazing already. i didnt really think the strut tower bar did much, or at least, i can't really feel a difference. weapon r is also coming out with a rear strut tower bar, so maybe that with the front bar could help a little.

 

The hotchkis front/rear sway set are awsome. I drove around with just the rear on for a couple weeks, and it was much better then stock, but felt unbalanced up front. Now with the front on, both set to the stiffest setting, I feel much flatter around corners. My buddy noticed it as well and he does not ride in my car much.

 

and you would be correct. A strut bar would be the last suspension related part i'd get to solve this problem.

 

i have the hotchkis swaw bar set and they are awesome. Notice a trend? Just get them, you wont be disappointed

 

lol its not a mystery, I just wanted to know what peeps have done to fix this problem. Thanks for the advice guys, I'll put it to good use

 

my plans are trd shocks and springs with hotchkis sways..i hear the trd shocks reduce body roll dramatically

 

seems like no one uses the TRD sways. The hotchkis over rules them

 

Best way to reduce body roll? Work out more.

 

Can you use the TRD shocks by themselves with stock springs?

 

im not sure if u can use stock springs on the trd shocks..sry i cant help wit that.

 

you can use trd shocks with stock springs just fine but i dont think its worth it. i think trd shocks are only 5% more dampening force then stock. you should invest in some koni sport shocks. they can go really stiff and have a lifetime warrenty if you doing drop it more then 1.5 inches

 

MATT-A dude that is f..n discusting but the best is tein s-techs and dc strut bar im fine no body roll at all

 

Damn I made a post here yesterday but apparently it never went through...

Body roll should by minimized by the springs and struts first, not a sway bar. The sway bars compliment the spring/strut setup, they shouldn't be the primary defense against body roll.

My suggestion is either Progress C1s or Tein SS coilovers and leaving them set high for a clost to stock ride height. The stiffened spring rate will greatly help, and you still have room to make it stiffer later by upgrading the bars if that isn't enough. That's the correct way to do it, but good luck to whatever path you choose!

-Joe

 

I have always heard exactly the opposite, and done mods accordingly. Since the sway bars' only job is to reduce body roll, that's where to start. Stiffer springs and struts will also reduce body roll, but they will also have an effect when accelerating, braking, or driving over bumps.

Many European tuners subscribe to the "soft springs/struts, stiff sways" philosophy (relatively soft, not luxo-cruiser soft.) The idea being, if you stiffen the springs and struts too much, the wheels will have a tendency to lose contact with the road, but in turns, where you need to control, the sway bars come in to play.

I believe that a tC with stock springs and struts and Hotchkis sways would handle better than a tC with stiffer springs and struts with stock sways.

 

strut bars wont do anything for our car. Atleast i didnt notice a difference. Sway bars are the way to go.

 

Just going from what I've experienced by actually doing all those setups. I had a 2002 Civic. First stock suspension and stock sway bars. Then I went to H&R for springs only. I then upgraded the rear sway to the RSX-S bar and it helped a LOT. I switched to a lower hieght by going to Eibach sportlines. After being a little too low with too soft of a setup, I upgraded the entire suspension to a Hayame full coil-over system. I snapped the stock end links off the sway bars from racing and ended up running JUST coilovers and nothing else. It handled a lot better than my spring/sway setup did. Firm spring rate, lower height, and no sways. I then bought a full eibach anti-roll kit for the car (front and back) with new bushings. The handling then was so strong it was damn near impossible to lose control.

Needless to say, I'll stand by my current arguement. Sway bars do help your handling drastically, but not as much as a real coilover system could. If your suspension is so stiff that your tires are coming off the ground then adjust the damper rates and keep it planted. Proper tuning (including spring rates, damper setings, camber, toe, and sway bar stiffness) will allow for a ride that handles extermely well, and balanced.

I guess I could elaborate more in case I didn't clear up what I said enough. Feel free to ask what you're wondering.