I am trying to decide on coilovers. I am looking for something around the $1200 (max) dollar range. I am looking at B&G's, TRD's, BC's, and still looking at others. I want something that handles well yet streetable.

Spring Rates
B&G = 6/8
TRD = 4.46/7.14
BC = 8/10

If you have experience with these or recommend others feel free to chime in! Also I am not interested in ksports, or megans, so please do not recommend them. :D

Stephen

 

edit.... I found some sights stating BC is made by the same manufacturer as ksport... if this is the case then I will take them off of the list...

 

BC also makes apex'i...so yeah

 

BC? Buddy Clubs? I'm guessing you are talking about the N+ coilovers, I haven't heard a review for the Tc yet, but allot of the Rsx guys and the Honda guys love the N+'s. And no, Buddy Club products are great, nothing compared to Ksports.


If you really want a good quality coilover get the H&R's they make great great stuff.

http://hopupracing.com/hrstpecoovki.html

 

BC =/= Buddy Club

BC - http://www.bcracing-na.com/products/scion.htm

 

I love my tein ssp. If you're ever in the St.L area hit me up and you can check em out and go for a spin.

 

There are only a handful of factories that make these. You would be surprised how many are simply re branded.

 

im undecided between B&G's and H&R's. cheapest ive founds H&R's....

http://store.allsprings.com/shared/S...unt2=924079537

 

I <3 my B&G's

 

i love my TEIN basic! u can get a set for around 800

 

The thing about the B&G's is that they use progressive spring rates., so if you plan on tracking or autocrossing your car its not as beneficial. Progressive springs will give you a more comfortable ride, but will also allow more dive and body roll.

Sport Compact Car is using a special set of B&G coilovers for their project Tc, the same sets that the where used for the Celebrity Tc Race held at Laguna Seca. (or something like that) That set uses linear springs and has stiffer dampening, I'm pretty sure if you contact them they could make something happen, altough this would not be cheap.


Btw, I have never heard of this company before

http://www.bcracing-na.com/products/scion.htm

hmmm...

 

idk, but my B&G's are bumpy as fk. lol

 

Lol, I hear they are an excellent brand though, And after checking their website I don't know if I can back up that they are progressive rates. They actually look very impressive, they are a monotube design (which might be why your car is bumpy, they usually have much better dampening than twin tube designs) they are also 18 way rebound and compression adjustable. I'd like to know the spring rates though, I know they keep all of that "hush hush" though.

 

hmmm... i dont like the fact they say 03+ scion tc..... the first year for the tC was 05

 

bahahaha.




FAIL!

 

i have kspot coilovers and i love them

 

This is true... But body roll is mainly controlled by a sway bar... progressive spring rates keeps the tire in contact with the road... so in everyday driving and even aggressive track driving, a progressive spring is better...

Think about it, if you have springs with a linear spring rate and you hit a bump and the car jumps all over the place at moderate speeds, or you can feel every little bump in the road... whats going to happen at high speeds? youre tire is going to loose contact with the road unless the car is produce huge amounts of down force, which this car is not without putting vallance that spands the entire bottom of the car making it completely flat (something that gt and prototype and very fast cars meant for high speeds come with)

Having adjustable shocks will only take you so far because if you adjust the rebound or compression the wheel may not have time to recover to its nutural position before hitting the next bump... To combat this, some companies use a shock or strut that as hit heats up gets softer... The heat is created when the shock is moved quickly, this way the suspension is stiff when you corner, but is soft when you go over a series of bumps... But this is a bad for acceleration because the weight transfer cause the front wheels to lift causing the tires to spin or chatter depeding on how close to the weight transfer threshold you are.

A lot of writing and now my hands hurt... Hope this was helpful in some way.

 

What you seem to be describing is a car riding on stiff springs without shocks. I've ridden in S13's with 15k springs and the car just feels so planted to the ground. The only time you experience "skidding" is during minor bumps or cracks, the tire will not come off the ground because of a stiff spring setup. You can have any kind of spring, its the dampeners job to control it, thats what they do. If you are experiencing lots of bouncing or if your tires are coming off the ground on bumps you need better shocks.

Also a sway bar does correlate to body roll, but its not a direct fix. Body roll is primarily controlled by your springs, all a sway bar does is turn and twist whichever side is under most load to "counter act" body roll. I've never seen a race car with progressive springs btw, it is not better for handling, the progressive spring is meant to allow a good ride height drop without sacrificing comfort for a stiff spring. That all they are meant to do. Go find me a race car on progressive springs please.

Shocks go hand in hand with a stiff spring setup, they are everything to keeping a car with a stiff spring setup in control. A good shock has time to do anything, and a higher and shock will be valved differently for low speed and high speed bumps.

I don't know why you brought this up anyway, I made a mistake and posted that the B&G's used progressive springs, which they don't. So I dunno what this was meant to point out.

 

to the OP: since your max is at 1200, why not go a few hundred dollars more and get eujin's coilover. he is selling his for 1500 shipped and its Zeals Function X.

 

if you are talking about the spring rates for the B&G's, I have them posted in the first post

How's the quality of the H&R's compared to B&G?

bluaeon: I would love to, only problem is that I would have to sell a few things. On top of that, it would take me a little while to save up for them. I will send him a pm and maybe he and I can discuss things :D