CSOCSO, take it to Ely's Tire on 441 and Countyline Rd. (I see that your in Hollywood)

I'm lowered on hotchkis and have enkei wheels and they got me back to factory spec without chamber links.

It's a good shop.

 

fixed, and wtf? my local shop said they couldnt fix it without camber links. I got them anyways and it looks great.

 

what????

 

thanks and how much they charged you???

 

about my tires.. front and rear has neg camber. the inside is worn out just by a little bit.. the difference is not that much but there is!

the biggest probelm is with my front tires.. its getting bold inside, outside and on the middle. so i must have really bad toe.. and of course the tires are noise.. and the wheel is shaking.. etc...

i know a firestone place.. i will ask them about this lifetime allignment thing.. but i need to know if they do a proper job or not.. or maybe that elys place..

 

in rare cases, the tires can be junk or the tire pressures off. i gotta align my car. but my tires are 55 bucks each :-) so im not too worried.

never had a problem with sears!

 

the front? ive never had a problem on hotchkis springs with the front getting negative camber, i didnt think it could? weird.

 

what are you talking about????????? if you are lowered then the chance to have a negativ camber is much higher than having positive camber.............

(on the front... )

 

no sh*t!?!? im saying on the front ive never seen a thread nor read anywhere about having negative camber. (on the front)

 

if you seen a lowered card their wheels looks like this:

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so the inner side of the wheel will wear out faster...

 

btw i will post up all the numbers what they did during the last allignment.. does anyone has that paper what they give you after allignment: it tells you how was yoy camber and toe and how is it now...

 

NO SH*T!!!!! i know because mine "were" like that. Just got the hotchkis camber links installed so its fixed.

 

opps, yeah I meant camber and I also meant that they got me close to factory spec. w/o camber links - I must have been tired when I was typing, lol

CSOCSO, they (Ely's Tire) charged me $60 for the alignment.

 

ok i just called them .. $115 for rebalance/tire rotations and allignment

not that bad...

 

Contrary to popular belief anything under 2 degrees of negative camber will not wear out the inside of your tires excessivly. I have various friends running 2.5 degrees on the front and the tires are completly fine. You are having tire wear problems because your toe is so misalligned. I can almost guarantee that your front tires have excessive toe in (front of the tires are pointing toward the center of the car) whoever installed your shocks messed with your tie rods. With the type of suspension our cars have the rear creates a natural toe out when lowerd.


This is your fault for not getting the car alligned sooner, also purchasing new tires while you knew that your allignment was off was a horrible investment. You should of gotten this fixed the next day after you lowered your car.

So here's a tip, since your car relatively new, most "Large Corporate" shops will not work on your lowered car, since our cars are newer they have certain regulations they have to attend to. However, if this is the case, try and find a mom and pop shop that does allignments. Its not rocket science, its really not, anyone with a machine can do it.

 

i dont know how do you know when did i get or didnt get allignment..................................................

btw if you want to know.. i bought my tires.. i had to wait a 1k miles to get my shocks installed and right after that day i went to toyota for alignment........................ so nothing changed since .. no new shocks.. no new springs nothing..

the allignment was done by toyota 7k miles ago....

 

ok.. so i got the paper from the last alignment... here it is:




so what you can tell me about this???

what is that sai? that wasnt in the specified range and they didnt fix it..

 

You have a camber kit? This included the camber bolts for the front. It's highly recommended even if you have a really good alignment at a tuner shop. Especially if the drop is aggressive as hotchkis.

If you have like TRDs like me then you should be somewhat ok without a camber kit.

 

SAI is the measurement in degrees of the steering pivot line when viewed from the front of the vehicle. This angle, when added to the camber to form the included angle causes the vehicle to lift slightly when you turn the wheel away from a straight ahead position. This action uses the weight of the vehicle to cause the steering wheel to return to the center when you let go of it after making a turn. Because of this, if the SAI is different from side to side, it will cause a pull at very slow speeds. Most alignment machines have a way to measure SAI; however it is not separately adjustable. The most likely cause for SAI being out is bent parts which must be replaced to correct the condition.



No I didn't write that up, but it's better than what I would have explained it as lol.



Most of you're rear tire wear looks like it is from toe, which can be easily adjusted with the toe links, however I highly suggest not doing it yourself, just let the people with the $80,000 alignment rack do it

 

ok i been at a shop.. and they did the tire rotation and alignment...........


i went to ely's tire they wont do it because im too low.......... they sent me somewhere else ( miramar tires or someting.. its really close to it..) they told me im too low................
so they told me to go another place wich is a sunoco gas station ( south from there, next to the advanced autoparts store) around nw 199 st, south of countyline...

so i got there.. they told me im too low.. im told them this is bull____.. even toyota had no problem with the car.................. so they tried to put it on the allignment rack and i was just fit.. less than half an inch clearance..........

anyway.... they did my tire rotation and they had to rebalance all my tires because it was suck........... (WTF???? the balancing goes bad by itself after a while??? no??? than fkin toyota maroone does a sloppy job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

anyway.. they did everything... btw they told me to put my hand on the tires and feel it how wavy it is.....and yeah.. damn... it was wavy.. every single tires............


anyway.. my wheel is not shaking that much.. i think the tires get louder because of those waves.......... the car goes straight now....

i dont think i would go back to toyota to have done any of this again.......................... i hope they can change a fkin oil without any problem.......................