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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 05:13 AM
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Default Falken FK452's or Toyo FZ4's?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
Old Apr 10, 2008 | 07:28 AM
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
The Toyo FZ4's STAY AWAY, no good at all! I don't know about the FK452's, just know you don't want the Toyo FZ4's.

also, check out this link
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=218475

have you thought about the proxes4's? anyway check out the link, give you a good idea what else is out there, hope that helps ya.
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sciontc_mich,

I'm in Michigan also and well . . . you know the roads. What would you recommend for a quiet tire. Kumho Ecsta's, Falken Ziex or Nitto NT555? or something else? yes, I'll be driving in winter on them, and no not interested in supreme ultra performance, just a quiet ride.

Tire rack and Discount tire have comments from owners but some are really old and well . . . technology on the tires their complaining about could have been improved.

hmmm
Old Apr 10, 2008 | 12:16 PM
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I like my Falkens! I recommend them!
Old Apr 10, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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I love Falkens, have 512's right now... have heard FZ4's are crappy.

A good quiet tire is also Kuhmo ASTs. Really cheap from Tire Rack lately too.
Old Apr 10, 2008 | 02:43 PM
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Ryan get get the Ziex 912! They're quiet and they're all season too! They also have a rim protector. if you want Toyos, just ask Matty which are best! Haha.
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Just to let you know, I'm running 19 x 8.5 wheels and dropped,
so I have to pretty much run 225/35's

Pricing is a B!TCH.
Old Apr 10, 2008 | 04:29 PM
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Well you'll pay more for the Toyos!!
Old Apr 10, 2008 | 04:38 PM
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Haha, Matty got me pricing and they are both the same.

I'm leaning towards Falkens because of all the reviews I;ve
been reading online. Tevin, PM me your AIM.
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I would be careful with the FK452s, I have seen a bunch of the bubble up, like a good dozen of the them. You just have to make sure that they are filled to the correct amount all the time, but it might just be easier to go with a different tire
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I've heard of bubbling but with only those who super stretch their tires.
Old Apr 10, 2008 | 05:54 PM
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I just got the 912s the other day. Much quieter than my BFG KDW2s but not quite as grippy. It's a good tire so far though. 2.5k launches are no problem
Old Apr 10, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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The Falken FK452's are great tires. You will enjoy evry sinlge aspect of them. Just make sure that you take it to a good tire shop because the beads can be easily broken on a 19" if they do not know what they are doing and that can cause bubbles on the sidewalls in an instant.
Old Apr 10, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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Falken 452 are a good choice for tires. They have 300 A A ratings, meaning good tread, streetability and they are performance tires, meaning they have reinforced side walls. The falken 452 offer both good wet and dry performance. As for the bubbling, it only occurs on aggressive setups, i.e. stretching, super low pro. Its a good all around tire. I had them, and got another set.
Old Apr 10, 2008 | 08:00 PM
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i have the falken 452's and i recommend them, really great tires.
Old Apr 10, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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I have the Falken Ziex 912s and they're great, VERY quite on the road and as mentioned before a nice all-season tire. Only around $85 on edgeracing.com last I checked....
Old Apr 10, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ryphlex
I've heard of bubbling but with only those who super stretch their tires.
i have had mine for over a year, and then some with the other owner of the rims with no issues on the FK452's... and my tires are stretched with my 9.5 inch rim in the back...
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Originally Posted by Smuckers
sciontc_mich,

I'm in Michigan also and well . . . you know the roads. What would you recommend for a quiet tire. Kumho Ecsta's, Falken Ziex or Nitto NT555? or something else? yes, I'll be driving in winter on them, and no not interested in supreme ultra performance, just a quiet ride.

Tire rack and Discount tire have comments from owners but some are really old and well . . . technology on the tires their complaining about could have been improved.

hmmm
hmmm.. is right. 1010tires.com is a place to check out reviews. it's a canadian site, which is good, since you're wanting to know what it's like in winter, they get plenty of that up there!

checking 1010tires.com, which i believe what they say, said the NT555 isn't even an all-season tire, got a 0 out of 5 for snow. here's the link http://www.1010tires.com/tire.asp?ti...=Nitto+-+NT555

I know you've heard us praising the Toyo Proxes4 but here's a link check it out.. we all love this tire!
http://www.1010tires.com/tire.asp?ti...model=Proxes+4 (you can click on reviews button)

Looks like the Kumho Ecsta ASX (i think that's the one you meant) was higher priced, have to check an american tire store to see the price.
http://www.1010tires.com/tire.asp?ti...ASX+%28KU21%29

I just don't have any personal experience with Kumho. Or Falken, but the Kumho's reviews on other sites have people saying they've lost some steering feel when they put on the Kumho's. That's the trade off, for snow traction sometimes, is a lack of feel in the tire. but I can see why you like them, they're not that expensive.

have you thought of also taking a look at BF Goodrich's new g-sport all season? The reviews look good and good for snow too. As well as ride comfort and ride noise! It's about $20 more a tire it looks like. maybe look at that as well? something else to think about.

Also- I don't buy from TireRack anymore since all I was getting from them, tire after tire, was one defective tire after another. And I was close enough to Indiana to go down to their location to have my car serviced directly by them! It's an extremely large place! wow! But.. People will probably defend them, all the stuff I ever bought from them was bad (out of round, internal steel belts misaligned, etc). I finally gave up on them and bought them from a local tire shop, no more issues. Since you're in michigan check out belle tire they've been good. Insist also on the torque stick when they first tighten them down with the air wrench (DO NOT ALLOW THEM TO USE AN AIR WRENCH WITHOUT A TORQUE STICK! OUCH!) and follow up with 76ft-lbs on a torque wrench.
Discount Tire on the other hand has been hit or miss with their quality of service. And I wouldn't even think of going to sears! You can tell I've been down this road many times.

but you wanted a quiet tire, and of course all-season. The proxes4's are decent in snow, just not perfect, then again if we want perfect we'd buy snow tires. And they're quiet. The BFG g-sport a/s look good for snow and are quiet (according to the reviews) the Kumho ASX look decent but I'm not sure you want to give up steering feel. And the Nitto NT555 forget snow with that tire.

Hope that helps.
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that was a big like....essay
Old Apr 11, 2008 | 07:32 AM
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its that really that big of a deal, just buy it....its not like ur getting 275/35/19 or something like that.
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