i have TSW Rocket 5 rims

19x8
32mm offset
235/35/19

S-Tech

when i take high speed turns i rub more on the drivers side then the passengers side.
going down the road i rub on large dips.

i still have full turning radius, just at speed it rubs, so it seems to me like it is the inner fender holding me up and not the lip..... i am thinking of pulling the front inner fenders, and making some kind of guard for my CAI,

yes, no, maybe?

 

For the front i think the rubbing is more on the plastic liner but you could do both if you can. Pulling the inner fenders? how do you do that? I rub too I only have 18x8 35offset, 225/40/18..

 

to remove the inner fenders, pull the wheels, pull the plastic rivets around the lip, yank (more or less) its pretty obvious once you get your head in there...

just gotta remember all your road debrie is now going to be going up into your engine bay.

 

Oh i see, you removed the plastic liner, did you notice any diffrence with rubbing, im not sure i wanna do that though..

 

havent done it yet, trying to decide if its really the right thing to do.

 

It prolly will help with rubbing but dirt on the engine bay, nah i'de rather rub.. plus the metal under the liner might be rough and might hurt your tires or the wheel well itself incase you still rub plus removing the liner will be more road noise.. im considering rubberized undercoating though if incase i would take them out, but still i need to protect dirt going to the engine bay.. hmm

 

Dirt in the engine bay, rocks and dirt hittin the belts and the electrical connections. Water spray all over everything... if you are still daily driving it I highly recommnend not pulling the inner fenders out. I have had cars with no liners in them.. but it can be a mess in the engine bay after a while.

 

driving slower or more carefully will fix your problem.
driving aggressively on low offset 19's with an aggressive drop is an ideal setup/situation for rubbing.
i'd consider getting smaller wheels or raising my car before removing the splash guards.

 

i do drive slow, ask all my friends lol... but going from road to bridge to road ill rub on the way up, but not down (did that make sense?) and thats doing the speed limit of 45.


but you guys would agree (without the pics ofcourse) that it doesnt seem as though the offset would be an issue with the fender lip, so the only rubbage is the inner fender...

maybe i can raise it some, or get a different kinda cover in there...

 

Ive had no inner fender for over a year now --no problems just gotta keep things clean -- especially your intake filter.

 

thanks hawgz, i didnt think you had yours, but i wasnt sure if it was just the lambos or what, now i just gotta find a way to get my jack under there to get the wheels off and fenders out lol

 

low profile jack? -- if not roll your car onto some 2x4's

 

i know HOW to do it, its just a matter of finding a low pro jack or some 2x4s lol, it will be done by this weekend at the latest.

 

Second that for pulling the fender liners... I've been running without both them and the plastic guard under the engine bay for about 7 months now, and I am running the trd drop with a kaminari kit on my tc.

the kaminari kit is what started my whole progression of removing those plastic bits, starting with the underbody panel, which doesnt mate up to the kits' front bumper, and so gets knocked around by airflow and drags like crazy. once that was gone, the fender liners have no real support in front, so when one detached from the car on I95 one day, I yanked the other, and havent looked back. no problems since... in fact the stock intake breathes much better with the fender liner gone IMHO, and I have had no extra issues with debris or dirt than before either (I put 300-600 miles on my car per week).

 

Well... doing it and not having an issue != being a good idea. I had a mustang that the guy before me had pulled the liners on. It was a RWD, so it wasnt as bad since the belts and pulleys are facing forward, but having even more water and dirt caked onto everything is not a good deal. And pulling the lower splash gaurds raises the risk of your AC condensor getting whacked by road debris (which has happened to a friend of mine), which is no cheap thing to fix.

As far as the stock intake breathing MUCH better... have you asked it? :p Cause I can bet you notice no difference in power (you dont even with a CAI), so that is a guess at best. There is more than enough room for air to be pulled in stock, the engine can only draw so much, regardless of how much you open it up.

Again, not saying it will cause some major, terrible issues, but I prefer to keep them in and not have dirt and crud hitting everything in my engine bay.

 

It isn't so much a feeling of having more power... more like it is somewhat smoother in making power... I really don't know how to better describe it, but before I removed the liners, it was different, and not in a good way (comparatively). In any case, I do acknowledge the increased potential of debris causing damage with the absent underbody guard - I intend to get or make a splitter that properly fits to my kit and runs the full length of the engine bay (sans cutouts for maintenance of course), and rhinoline the fenderwells. after all, I do live in florida... there's alot of crap on the roads down here.

 

Do this to keep your liner and lessen/eliminate rub:

- take down driver's liner to give you some room to work. There's a 10mm bolt going straight up that holds the metal fender to the plastic bumper. Using a dremel or air saw take off the excess flange that the bolt goes through so theres just a thin ring around the bolt. It will make more sense when youre in there...

-After you put the liner back in, carefully heat up the liner in that one spot with a heatgun. Wearing thick gloves, pull the liner towards you to smush it as close as possible to the metal fender, away from the wheel.

kinda make sense? Worked for my 19"s

 

oh... I almost forgot... as far as dirt is concerned, those plastic guards really don't do much at all in that respect. in my case at least, 90% or more of the dirt on my engine comes in thru the grille... and splash - even without the liners in the fenders, there are very few places (I counted at most 2 small areas on each side, and those spots are well forward of and/or above the wheels) where splash from the wheels could possibly enter the engine bay. the majority of the wheel well is contiguous (though by no means smooth) metal.

 

i pulled the fenders, and yeah, there are not too many places were **** can get in the engine... my FUJITA intake no longer throws a CEL (ive had it installed for 2k miles, 200miles with out the fenders) the CEL went away 10miles after removal and has been gone since, so yes, i would agree thing breath better without the inner fenders...