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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 12:09 PM
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Here's a pic of my latest splurge.

Braille B2015C.

Figured it'd match the whole carbon fiber theme i have going, plus the functionality to go with it.

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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 12:42 PM
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Very nice! Where'd you get the bracket to go with it?
Old Feb 12, 2012 | 12:57 PM
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Bought on ebay.

Here's link for the bracket.
http://www.braillebattery.com/index....lum_mount_kit/

I'm also gonna get it anodized in black to match turbo setup.
Old Feb 12, 2012 | 02:12 PM
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That plus turbo kit = one sexy engine compartment!
Old Feb 12, 2012 | 05:22 PM
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Sick....
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Nice.
Old Feb 15, 2012 | 01:56 AM
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That particular battery weighs 15 pounds (at least that is what it says on the website). Any idea how much the stock one weighs? I am considering getting that battery but I wanna see if the weight loss is worth the price of the battery.

Also, anyone know the life expectancy of this battery versus the stock one?
Old Feb 15, 2012 | 11:01 PM
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Man, I was going to poke fun.... but then I did a little research. Still not for me, but not a complete and total waste of money like I thought.

I dont know exactly, but from past experience with auto batteries, the stock one probably weighs about 20lbs. It isent the case that makes it so heavy, it is the internal lead, and lead studs. This one saves most of its weight in the studs and internals. The company also brags that the carbon fiber acts as a heat shield, but my gut and a google search say otherwise. It is also a $102 difference between the Braille B2015 and Braille B2015C; C indicating carbon fiber.... Really? Like I said...not for me, but whatever floats your boat!
Old Feb 15, 2012 | 11:39 PM
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A typical battery is going to be closer to 30-40 lbs.
Old Feb 16, 2012 | 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by engifineer
A typical battery is going to be closer to 30-40 lbs.
That would be a big truck battery. Ours is very small, almost motorcycle small. I am not going to go pull mine out to prove it, but I would be VERY suprised to learn the stock tC battery was over 25lbs. They usually feel heavier than they really are. I proved this about 11 yrs ago with a friendly bet between coworkers at PepBoys. Free sodas for a week, good times!
Old Feb 16, 2012 | 12:49 AM
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ill be taking my battery out in a couple days so i can give it to NST to do some measurements on. (something special in the works between now and april.) when i do pull it ill put it on a scale and see how much it really weighs. if you have any questions about the braille batteries. Nst sells them and mike there can tell you anything you need to know.
Old Feb 16, 2012 | 01:38 AM
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Ptuning posted that our stock battery is 39.6lbs. Here's the link. https://www.scionlife.com/forums/sho...=209473&page=2

And yep, this floats my boat.
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The 1st gen battery weighs in at approx 40 lbs. That is not a "big truck battery".

The smallest, lowest CCA battery Napa lists for a 1st gen tC is 32 lbs, others they list for it are 40lbs.

Interstate batteries smallest battery for a first gen is 39.7 lbs.

So unless the 2nd gen runs a much smaller battery (with a slightly larger displacement motor, which means they are running a more expensive, compact battery) then it will weigh about 40 lbs like I said.

Something in a truck running a V8 will weigh upwards of 45 lbs.
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ON THE NST SITE: http://www.nonstoptuning.com/BRAILLE...Batteries.html

We sell A LOT of these Braille Batteries to Scion customers. We also use them in our own NST race cars and daily driven toys. The first gen tC has an OEM battery that weighs almost 40 lbs and the second gen is no different.

The 15 lb Braille is a very good battery for use in the tC. It has enough cranking amps and will work very well if it is not abused. Braille also offers a 17 lb and even a 21 lb for anyone needing more.

We are even offering FREE SHIPPING in the USA right now!

Feel free to contact us by phone and I would be more than happy to chat with any of you in regards to the best battery for your application.




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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 10:00 PM
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Well I have egg on my face now don't I? I am still not sold though. $250 to save 15lbs; you do know you can remove your back seats for free right? ; )
Old Feb 16, 2012 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Druidiron
Well I have egg on my face now don't I? I am still not sold though. $250 to save 15lbs; you do know you can remove your back seats for free right? ; )
I already did on mine lol. It's all about the cumulative total

One last question, I do wanna get the 15 lbs battery for my car as a daily driver but I tend to bump my radio awfully high when I'm crusing. Will this drain the battery super fast?
Old Feb 16, 2012 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Hope29
I already did on mine lol. It's all about the cumulative total

One last question, I do wanna get the 15 lbs battery for my car as a daily driver but I tend to bump my radio awfully high when I'm crusing. Will this drain the battery super fast?
I will answer this even though my credibility is shot at this point.

No. When your car is running, your alternator is constantly recharging your battery.
Even with a amp and sub hooked up, if your alternator is working right your battery will be fine. Now if you have a crazy set up with more than 2, 12inch subs and 2+ amps pushing 1000 watts each, your stock alternator is not going to be able to keep up without the help of a capacitor or additional battery.
If you mean the stock head unit and speakers, you will be more than fine even on full blast if the car is running. Sitting in a parking lot for hours with the radio going and the car on, but not running, will kill any battery fast.
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Originally Posted by Druidiron
I will answer this even though my credibility is shot at this point.

No. When your car is running, your alternator is constantly recharging your battery.
Even with a amp and sub hooked up, if your alternator is working right your battery will be fine. Now if you have a crazy set up with more than 2, 12inch subs and 2+ amps pushing 1000 watts each, your stock alternator is not going to be able to keep up without the help of a capacitor or additional battery.
If you mean the stock head unit and speakers, you will be more than fine even on full blast if the car is running. Sitting in a parking lot for hours with the radio going and the car on, but not running, will kill any battery fast.
This is correct!

Again, any of our customers can contact us at NST during normal business hours and we'd be more than happy to chat in great detail.


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Originally Posted by Druidiron
Well I have egg on my face now don't I? I am still not sold though. $250 to save 15lbs; you do know you can remove your back seats for free right? ; )
This isn't necessarily true... nor correct.

We sell the Braille 15lb battery for about $150. So that's $150 to go from your 40lb battery down to a 15lb version, saving about 25lbs.

In addition, some owners relocate the battery to a more desired location to help redistribute some weight. This can be very beneficial when done correctly. Now you are talking about completely removing 40lbs from the front, adding a bit somewhere else where you may need it, or just to clear up a good amount of space at the front of the car for something else.

Yes, you can remove your back seats for free, you can remove a spare tire, etc. But not everyone wants to take that route. Not everyone will want to take a lightweight battery route either, but to say those who are doing so are wasting their time... that I can not agree with.


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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 05:23 PM
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"The only real negative effect of running a PC680 battery is that once it full dies out, they can not fully be recharged. It is recommended to replace the entire unit. To prevent this from happening, it is recommended to disconnect the negative battery cable."

Stole this from another thread by andrew from ptuning. I'm confused, so does this mean that when any aftermarket lightweight battery eventually dies, it cannot be jump started by the conventional red and black cables method? Do we have to buy a special jump start kit to recharge the (aftermarket) battery? Is that why they sell battery chargers on the braille website?



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