Tc '12 Intake: Injen or Descendant ?
So im about to make a purchase for an intake but I cant decide on which one i should get.
I just found this injen SP2116P one on ebay Item number: 260868453243
but i dont really like that black tube to be honest! im all about polished but also im not sure about how it performs.
But then when performance comes to mind i think about the good reviews that ive heard on the Descendant intake for the 2011-2012 Tc. So i gotta ask .. for which one should i go?
thanks!
I just found this injen SP2116P one on ebay Item number: 260868453243
but i dont really like that black tube to be honest! im all about polished but also im not sure about how it performs.
But then when performance comes to mind i think about the good reviews that ive heard on the Descendant intake for the 2011-2012 Tc. So i gotta ask .. for which one should i go?
thanks!
Keep in mind just an intake won't yield any noticeable hp that you can feel, your butt dyno convinces you that you're gaining power. In the end its just a pipe that feeds air, so just get the one that looks good, and sound good. Listen to some of the sounds on youtube.
The Descendant you can buy for $170 to $190. Two different 'colors'.
I plan on ordering a Descendant for the price and I heard no complaints about them. I hope they let the 2.5L engine roar like the AEM on my tC1!!
Its literally sucking in colder air than the engine bay, so you gotta feel something right?
I dont get it when people say your not gonna notice any change. Atleast more torque?
The Dyno does show, however, that at 5,500 RPM its nearly the same HP as stock.
I plan on ordering a Descendant for the price and I heard no complaints about them. I hope they let the 2.5L engine roar like the AEM on my tC1!!
Its literally sucking in colder air than the engine bay, so you gotta feel something right?
I dont get it when people say your not gonna notice any change. Atleast more torque?
The Dyno does show, however, that at 5,500 RPM its nearly the same HP as stock.
Keep in mind just an intake won't yield any noticeable hp that you can feel, your butt dyno convinces you that you're gaining power. In the end its just a pipe that feeds air, so just get the one that looks good, and sound good. Listen to some of the sounds on youtube.
The Descendant you can buy for $170 to $190. Two different 'colors'.
I plan on ordering a Descendant for the price and I heard no complaints about them. I hope they let the 2.5L engine roar like the AEM on my tC1!!
Its literally sucking in colder air than the engine bay, so you gotta feel something right?
I dont get it when people say your not gonna notice any change. Atleast more torque?
The Dyno does show, however, that at 5,500 RPM its nearly the same HP as stock.
I plan on ordering a Descendant for the price and I heard no complaints about them. I hope they let the 2.5L engine roar like the AEM on my tC1!!
Its literally sucking in colder air than the engine bay, so you gotta feel something right?
I dont get it when people say your not gonna notice any change. Atleast more torque?
The Dyno does show, however, that at 5,500 RPM its nearly the same HP as stock.
i guess im gonna go with the descendant. Even tho that injen that i posted its really cheap compared to the other ones, i really dont like that black tube lol
Not sure about the sound. But now that you mention it I saw the Injen unit on Amazon for almost the same price and the D. Now I dont know which one really.
I'm still watching some of these intake threads. I'm ordering other junk first!
I'm still watching some of these intake threads. I'm ordering other junk first!
Is CARB a requirement for after market parts in Texas? That would be my only concern. Descendant isn't but I also don't know if Injen passed or acquired their CARB approval. I have the Descendant Polished intake and I love it.
Yeah, why do you want to sell it so quickly?
Yeah, why do you want to sell it so quickly?
i went ahead and i got the injen. I just installed it a couple of minutes ago and im uploading a video to youtube.It took me an HOUR!!! but hey, i have not experience whatsoever so whatever lol.
It is a short ram but later on ill get the second tube.theres a really weird burnt smel coming ouf of the engine that last for a couple of seconds,is that something that i should be worried about?
Its probably just me but i do hear a deeper sound on my car..maybe not super deep but it does sound different and i guess itll sound a lot better one i get the TRD exhaust systm.
heres the video and a pic.
http://youtu.be/qNILLT1Jlqo?hd=1
It is a short ram but later on ill get the second tube.theres a really weird burnt smel coming ouf of the engine that last for a couple of seconds,is that something that i should be worried about?
Its probably just me but i do hear a deeper sound on my car..maybe not super deep but it does sound different and i guess itll sound a lot better one i get the TRD exhaust systm.
heres the video and a pic.
http://youtu.be/qNILLT1Jlqo?hd=1
Smell could be due to air/fuel ratio adjusting to the new flow. Every time you do a mod that doesn't require programing, you need to reset the ECU by either pulling the fuse under the hood for it or taking off the (-) cable from the battery for a few minutes. This is for all the electronic components to power down with no memory or refreshing the memory. Once you have started the car with everything off, allow the car to idle until the engine is at normal operating temperature. When you start driving, take it easy for a little bit. So the car can adjust to the new flow.
Smell could be due to air/fuel ratio adjusting to the new flow. Every time you do a mod that doesn't require programing, you need to reset the ECU by either pulling the fuse under the hood for it or taking off the (-) cable from the battery for a few minutes. This is for all the electronic components to power down with no memory or refreshing the memory. Once you have started the car with everything off, allow the car to idle until the engine is at normal operating temperature. When you start driving, take it easy for a little bit. So the car can adjust to the new flow.
No problem. I also made the same mistake years ago. This also further prevent getting a CEL. Although both Injen and Descendant are guaranteed not to hve CELs, their literature will say that the intakes PREVENT CELs.
Does anyone have any Dyno numbers from both of these products? honestly I go for performance more then anything so anything that can give me the most power is what I go for. Does anyone know which one gives the most hp? Descendant does have a bigger pipe which allows more air flow. Anyone?
A CAI is all sound on these cars. I say this because if you look at the stock intake setup, the system is only restrictive at the inlet tube in the fender. From there on, there is hardly any restriction. If you watch the IT, when the temps drop down to anywhere between 60F and 70F, the car does feel more peppy. However, with the stock intake your IT's are only 10-15 degree's higher than ambient, so you won't get colder air than ambient. That small difference in air temperature won't significantly increase any power especially with stock engine management.
Another thing to take into consideration is running higher octane fuel. The ECU retards the timing a fair bit with 87 octane, running 93 you gain a lot of timing back. I monitored the timing curve on my tC as I have a scan gauge.
Another thing to take into consideration is running higher octane fuel. The ECU retards the timing a fair bit with 87 octane, running 93 you gain a lot of timing back. I monitored the timing curve on my tC as I have a scan gauge.
Hey Russiankid, I thought the that it's said that if it call for 87 only use 87 since that's what the car was designed with? But you said you actually feel or see a difference with higher octane fuel?
It may say that it is recommended to run 87, but that is for economy purposes. It is cheaper to run 87, so the ECU is mapped to run on 87 and will give you the best fuel mileage, or at least closer to sticker. However, running higher octane will not hurt anything, it will actually be better. With higher octane the ECU doesn't have to adjust timing as much to prevent detonation where as with 87 you have a higher chance of detonation under load at higher RPM's. I run 89 in mine, and I yield just about the same results as I saw with 93. I am not saying that running a higher octane with give you a lot more power, but based on ignition timing the car is more responsive.
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