That's not a 60hp jump. That's a 130-135hp jump.

 

270 +130 is 400. not 330hp. 270 + 60 is 330hp. or am i missing somthing?

 

Wrong.

tC1 is 270whp (wheel) not crank

tC2 is 330whp (wheel) not crank

You are mixing crank hp and wheel hp numbers up.


Stock tC1 dyno around 140whp (crank hp is 160)

Turbo kit pumping down 270whp is 270whp - 140whp = 130whp gain.


Stock tC2 dyno around say 180whp (crank is rated at 180hp, but so far they have been dynoing around that amount so the crank is more like 200hp).

Turbo kit on stock tC2 putting down 330whp is 330whp - 180whp = 150whp gain.

In the case of Descendant they dynoed the tC2 at 192whp and added their turbo and made 330whp so 330whp - 192whp = 138whp gain.


The only Forced induction application for a tC that only shows 60whp gain is the weak and no longer in production TRD Supercharger. All the turbo setups out there you can expect 100+whp gains.

 

your right but i was saying if the 2AZ-FE turbo was putting out 270whp and the 2AR-FE turbo was puting out 330whp at the same boost then there there is a 60whp jump from the 2AZ-FE turbo at 8.5psi to the 2AR-FE turbo at 8.5 psi.

 

Gotcha, now we are on the same page

 

Actually...now that we here at WORLD Racing / DESCENDANT get more & more of these kits under our belts & keep doing more & more R&D the number as we see it for 100% Factory Scion with a 2AZFE or the new 2ARFE the numbers are

2AZFE

300whp & 298tq ... 100% factory 2011 Scion xB ONLY modification DESCENDANT Bolt-on & Go Turbo Kit @ 10psi (OEM exhaust & clutch)



2ARFE
333whp & 302tq ... 100% factory 2011 Scion tC2 ONLY modification DESCENDANT Bolt-on & Go Turbo Kit @ 10psi (OEM exhaust & clutch)



Basically this set up:
2AZFE
vs
2ARFE

 

Can't wait to get one of these for myself! Just need a little extra so I don't go broke for it... Although it might be worth going in to debt lol

 

ahh ok so only 33 hp gain with the 2ar-fe at 10psi ok. so hey rob is the 2ar-fe and the 2az-fe pretty close to being the same size? dose the header have the same bolt patern and in the same spot? i want to drop in a 2ar-fe motor into my xb and just seeing how much fab work i would have to do.

 

And you'd have a 6-speed xB

 

thats my plan! but if the tranny falls through the 4-speed bolts to the 2AR-FE anyways

 

Now here's a story of dedication. Rob is answering my questions on the weekend, from his iPhone! Impressive!!!

 

So will this kit work on the automatic 2011 tc?

 

yes it will. but you wont be putting down 333hp. right now 220hp is safe for a stock auto. some have gone higher with luck and some with no luck.

 

IMO...you'd be better of doing the 6 speed swap once we have it completely engineered. Attached is a picture of the new tC2 6speed gearbox attached to the tC1 & xB2 2AZFE engine.


The complete swap probably isn't worth it because of how much fabrication would be needed to get the motor installed & working properly. No all new engine platform, nothing is the same.

 

Yes...the system is a direct bolt-on kit for the 2011 Scion tC whether i6speed or auto transmission.

We are currently developing the AEM FIC sofeware for the AT cars.

 

thanks rob!!! thats good info. . so i think i will do the 6speed swap first then turbo. so if i had the 6-speed auto and bought your turbo kit would it come with the same map as the 4-speed auto or would it need a new map? im very happy someone like you is on scions side lol

 

Nope, we have different tunes available for different applications.

 

Lets see some 0-60 videos, Rob!

Or 0 to... the limiter or something! That would be kick-a**!

 

New tC2 video's coming soon!! Gonna go do some drag racing...should be fun!!

 

I can't wait...