This is why this is funny. Newman said redthingamajig or whatever. I was laughing because I thought he was a knowledgable dude and knew what it was but was being funny. Then this Marcus dude comes out of now where with his know-how and not only corrects the dude, who I assumed knew what it really was and was just being funny, but actually corrects him wrongly. Then I find out that Newman was probably wasn't being funny and was actually calling it a thingamajig but knew enough that it applied to a turbo, because he's been on these threads lately and is still in the learning process. So this whole thing is all jacked up. Our editor knows less than dudes that just started in the game. Whats the deal. Hey editor, can you delete that thread of that guy in the xB2 forum trying to sell a cluster and it's his first post ever? Thanks.

 

about 8,000 is really nice for a full turbo setup! (I'm guessing tuning and all). superb job.

also i think upgraded sway bars help a lot in turns and reduce body roll. also upgrade the springs like you want and maybe add a strut brace, though the latter doesn't do too much, and you would notice a good difference on a track.

lol i am not knowledgebale about these things! i have never owned a turbo'd car, or a car that hasnt been FWD. I am a newb when it comes to cars, not a mechanic

 

No worries man! Your innocence seems to get you in trouble once in a while, concidering you gave KKay quite a scare on her thread, and now this thread and a couple others! Not to worry though, alls good! Continue learning!

 

Err yeah what he said. Brain fart :p

 

Have to disagree. Don't take this the wrong way athgaurd. But it sounds more like you have been price gouged.

You either exaggerated your cost or you got taken at the bank for those prices. $8k for a log manifold setup, that will fail over time from cracks. $1200 for a 2.5" exhaust? I have a 3" for $900 that is fully production and fully V-banded all the way through.

You could have bought a higher quality setup than what you have for a lot cheaper.

Full PTuning setup for the 2011+ tC is $4,699
http://www.ptuning.com/subdir/itemde...E&ModelDesc=tC

Pretty sure nothing body wise has changed between a 2011 and a 2014 tC, so you could have purchased an HKS, Tanabe, GReddy, Borla...etc for $500-600. Those are all 2.5 inch production exhaust systems from well known manufactures. They are only axle backs however. So, for being boosted, you really want something like a 3" exhaust. Dezod has a 3" exhaust for the 2011+ tC at $935. $265 cheaper than your 2.5" mandrel bent pipe you had made.

That kit from PTuning + a 3" would be capable of more power, better reliability, and you wouldn't need to hide it behind a stock heat shield because it's to beautiful. AND be Cheaper too boot than what you said you paid.

PTuning kit + Dezod 3" = $5,634

Add in $300-500 for tuning (based on $500 tune) and you are looking at $6,134.

Maybe take a little fabrication to get the Dezod exhaust to mate up to the PTuning kit but still not even close to $8k at the end of the day.

No hard feelings and hope you don't take this the wrong way. Just want to put it out there, that the turbo route doesn't have to be near $10k and still not be ebay.


I know this is not a direct comparison, but this Full V-band setup from PTuning has dual 40mm wastegates with a GT3076R turbo, and has seen countless hours of race track time, without a single failure, so reliability is AA+++. And it's still only $5k for the 1st gen tC. This is the setup that I have on my 1st gen.

 

tuning a turbo at a shop is only $600?
I was under the impression that it costs way over $1,000...
would probably cost more than $8,000 if he had to upgrade internal parts like rods, rings, pistons, and either of the shafts.
I do not remember reading that he did internal work though. must be stock.

 

This is tune only Newman, not installation of the turbo kit. Installing will be near the 4 figures mark for sure. You must understand that $500 for a tune is five hours of tuning! For shops that know Scions, they can have it knocked really quick, two hours max! So to spend a few dollars on the map and then getting it tuned should be around that price.

 

Oh, and Rhythm, are you trying to turn me on with those pictures? Because I already have the chocolate syrup out and scented candles lit.

 

That does look like a sweet setup and I would love to drive that. Just not what I was looking for. If I wasn't looking for the "as stock as possible" look I would do that setup.

 

Correct. I am a stock engine which handles really well. I was shocked to see the fuel injectors only run at 30% duty cycle and with all my add ons I'm at 40% which isn't too shabby. I'll wait until I break something or have it for a bit longer before I start doing the internals.

 

Newman, for upgraded internals you will pay $5k alone. Which he doesn't have internals. And you don't need internals in this car until you are in the neighborhood of 350-400whp.

 

Correct. Only talking tuning, because any person with a smidgen of mechanical know how and can read directions, can install a turbo kit within a good day. And if you don't know how, then find friends that do.



Hehee...when I opened the box, I contemplated having a 3 some with my wife...j/k.

 

Well, there was PTuning you could have turned to also. There is no guarantee a custom setup would work either, so it's really a toss up. Doesn't the 2014 have the same motor as the 2011? I don't recall any changes, then again I've been following the FR-S and not the new changes with the tC, but I assume the motor is unchanged, which means the only issue with comparability you might have would be in the ECU department.

What management are you running anyway?



Of all those, the Dezod one probably looks the most stock appearing. But I've never had that same mentality though. I figured paying $5+k dollars for a turbo setup and hiding it or want to keep it low key, is like me buying my wife a set of ***** and telling her never to show her cleavage. Can't spend that much coin just to cover it up.




Let me be more specific. When I say body, I don't mean the amenities/visuals. I'm speaking of underneath the car....the exhaust tunnel/path. It should be the same, if that's not changed. I know the moved the exhaust from one side to the other when the tC2 came out in 2011, but don't think it's changed from 2011-2014.



Good, that's great then. If that is what makes you happy, then I'm all for it. A bit counter productive for my taste, but my main goal with that post was for an educational purpose for people such as Newman. That they don't get the idea that a sound, reliable and fast tC had to be eclipsing the $10k mark almost. And can be had for cheaper than that. Your cost is associated with your car because of personal preference, and does not reflect what should be the norm.

Rock ON bud, and please....Kill those other makes and models and never forget to get video of you doing it! Because as soon as you say...I whopped an STI and then they are like...what do you drive...you say Scion, you are automatically discredited. But a video, that's hard to refute. Get enough of them, and they don't say **** anymore...lol.

 

Really? "j/k"? I highly doubt it. I know you full-blown out-right contemplated it!

 

Nothing wrong with options...

 

Yeah I don't think we looked into PTuning but again, after I talked to dezod I decided that everyone would be following their designs and wouldn't have something that would fit my criteria. That's what you get for more originality (or lack of, for trying to look stock)

[QUOTE=What management are you running anyway?[/QUOTE]

AEM



[QUOTE=Of all those, the Dezod one probably looks the most stock appearing. But I've never had that same mentality though. I figured paying $5+k dollars for a turbo setup and hiding it or want to keep it low key, is like me buying my wife a set of ***** and telling her never to show her cleavage. Can't spend that much coin just to cover it up.[/QUOTE]

Yeah... different mentality lol. I would buy my wife some ***** for me, not the world. I don't want to show off money until someone thinks they got one over on me.

[QUOTE=Let me be more specific. When I say body, I don't mean the amenities/visuals. I'm speaking of underneath the car....the exhaust tunnel/path. It should be the same, if that's not changed. I know the moved the exhaust from one side to the other when the tC2 came out in 2011, but don't think it's changed from 2011-2014.[/QUOTE]

Nope I'm pretty sure they are all the same... ECU is the same but completely different for 14 if that makes any sense...

 

why did the 2014 lose 1hp if the engines remained the same again? i know there was some reason, I just forgot...
Can one say that the 2014 scion tC is basically a coupe version of a Camry? because we know the engines are the same, is the trans the same too? (assuming camries even have a manual option.) or is the trans unique to the tC? any other components? And they're both cars as opposed to the Rav 4 which also shares the same engine as i have heard.

 

Cleavage would still be for me...

 

Takes more than just sharing an engine to say something is a version of something else. I had a 350z and then traded in for an Infinity FX35 which also has the same engine as the 350z.

Camry doesn't have the same chassis as a tC.

 

ACT 6-puck performance clutch going in... stock clutch was slipping a bit in 4th gear with the HP/torque I'm putting out... dyno was reading over 350 torque before I had to stop. Not sure if the drivetrain can handle this kind of torque though but you know how the saying goes... you won't know your limits until you break them