george_da_2nd

how do i fix them they come pretty whimpy stock.... the moment you start to have some fun on back roads the peddle gose mushy anything i can do to help cool off the brakes? or new roters or drums? ideas please!

Chops

Willwood makes a big brake kit for us.
But you can make your own... I'd get a drilled/slotted rotor and a good set of 4 piston calipers and new brake lines.
And obviously some high quality pads, like Hawk Ceramics or something like that.

Now, you'll also need to make sure the caliper clears your rims as well.

And you'll be looking at about 1,000 for a kit and/or all the parts to make one.

Here's a few places to get you started:
StopTech
Wilwood
Rotora
Hawk
There are more companies out there and the such so... just do some research.

oldmanatee

I have heard that 4 piston calipers are not always better....they flex a lot more.

Since the xA is so light and moderately powered, I think you'd be better served by replacing the rotors and getting better pads. Heat dissapation is what you want and being old school, cast iron rotors are what I know. I'd research the newer composition rotors and pads...But, beware, the ceramics take a while to heat up to where they grip and they cool off so fast you are always trying to get the brakes warm enuff to grip. They are great for track time however....


If you are mostly a backroad burner, I'd check into slotted discs and some better pads, not a big brake kit. It will be cheaperand if it still doesn't do what you want, then you can still have fun while you save for the BBK.

Do you have fog lights?
If not, pop out the covers and modify them so you can let the air in.

george_da_2nd

i do have fogs actully i live on david hill estates so its about 4 milles of really relaly twisty switchback roads before i get into town. because its up on the hill. so sloted roters and pads sounds good dose anyone have sloted roters for stock sizes???

oldmanatee

I'd look thru some of the sponsors here (you might get a discount) or someone like Stop-Tech or Wildwood like Chops suggested. And there is always Tire Rack. From what I hear, factory rotors are now disposeable on small cars.

You might want to find which is better, slotted or drilled. I have heard that drilled don't stand up to everyday driving with all the potholes and such. They become brittle. Again, these are just the opinions of an old fart.

oldmanatee

From the parts section of here..


Rotora Front Upgrade Kit [edit] Average Rating
List Price: $2095.00 Part No: RBK42.01A Website Based on 0 review(s)


This kit comes complete with 4-piston calipers, pads, braided lines and with slotted and vented rotors.
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Wilwood Front Upgrade Kit [edit] Average Rating
List Price: $1180.00 Part No: 140-8335 Website Based on 0 review(s)


This kit comes complete with calipers, pads, braided lines and with regular or drilled rotors. Drilled rotors add $110.00 to the price of the kit.
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Brake Man Storm Brake Kit [edit] Average Rating
List Price: $4035.00 Part No: 001-1110 (F), 001-1112 (R) Website Based on 0 review(s)


Fronts include F3 calipers, 310mm x 18mm 2-pc REVOLUTION rotors. Rears include F1 calipers, 298mm x 10mm 2-pc REVOLUTION rotors. Front price is $2392.50 and rears are $1642.50.
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I didn't know BBK were so expensive!

george_da_2nd

ya no joke i tink ill just do roters and pads.... and stop tech has them?

oldmanatee

They should....I know that www.tirerack.com can help you out...

george_da_2nd

they don t have roters just pads

LeroyJMC

Since you have fogs, then you might be able to set up some duct work in the lower grill over to the brakes. You should have plenty of clearance for it.

oldmanatee

I could have sworn they had kits... sorry...

Not much help here, but look at this..
http://www.theperformancedriver.com/...06&type=Brakes

george_da_2nd

nice so its 200 for a set of sloted rotors? thast not to bad

oldmanatee

Esp. if you consider it's $170 for the stockers...hmmmmmm

george_da_2nd

you were talkin aobut ducting how would i do that i can always move the fogs else ware

oldmanatee

That is going to be a trial and error undertaking. But, I'd just get my hoses and see where the best place to place your intake...I would look into scavenging something like the air intakes from an older Camaro intake and mount them under the bumper...I say the older Camaro because the intake was wide flat black plastic....

LeroyJMC

Ebay the ducting. Here are some options.

A: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/20-RV...spagenameZWDVW

B: http://cgi.ebay.com/FLS0625-Metallic...QQcmdZViewItem

C: http://cgi.ebay.com/Vinyl-Ducting-Ve...QQcmdZViewItem


Basically just need something to route the air back. You can paint it whatever color you need for it to be.

oldmanatee

Thanks for the links!!

LeroyJMC

You could probably also fashion some out of pine bark and pine sap. Ya think, oldmanatee?

LeroyJMC

I think I'd go with something about 4", george. I'm thinking that wal-mart may even have something that would work for you. I'm thinking of the waste water hoses like you use for an rv. Home Depot should also have some of that black plastic like you'd use to move water away from your house out of your gutters.

oldmanatee

I'd stay away from the pine sap... it's ok in the winter, but in the summer it will run.....