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05-01-2007, 06:03 PM
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There should be a VERY light coating of lithium soap glycol grease on the pins so that the assembly slides smoothly and easily on them...
If they were assembled dry, got grit on them, were out of size tolerance, or were somehow damaged, they could cause the effects mentioned. Since this is the second of these reported here on ScionLife in about a week's time, it is possible that something happened on the assembly line - for example lube missed - that affected a small number of cars.
Hopefully the folks with the problem, and their dealerships, have gotten Scion Corporate involved so that they can assess the origin and extent of the problem.
Tom
If they were assembled dry, got grit on them, were out of size tolerance, or were somehow damaged, they could cause the effects mentioned. Since this is the second of these reported here on ScionLife in about a week's time, it is possible that something happened on the assembly line - for example lube missed - that affected a small number of cars.
Hopefully the folks with the problem, and their dealerships, have gotten Scion Corporate involved so that they can assess the origin and extent of the problem.
Tom
05-02-2007, 03:36 PM
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Ok, what are the VIN numbers of the cars from people reporting this problem? If they are very close to each other, then it may be a small, concentrated problem, if they are not, then there is a larger quality control issue.
Ok, what are the VIN numbers of the cars from people reporting this problem? If they are very close to each other, then it may be a small, concentrated problem, if they are not, then there is a larger quality control issue.
05-09-2007, 05:51 PM
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the issue came back...going to the dealer tonight...bossy what did you have to do to get the lemon law thing rolling? im not letting her drive this car any more then she needs to. she has a 2.5 your old and i wont risk something happening to them.
05-11-2007, 03:05 PM
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05-11-2007, 03:38 PM
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Here is the information for Pennsylvania; SAFETY FIRST....
Automobile Lemon Law
Pennsylvania's Automobile Lemon Law is designed to protect Pennsylvania consumers from unsafe and defective new cars.
The Automobile Lemon Law applies to the PURCHASE or LEASE of new vehicles that are registered in Pennsylvania. The vehicle must be used for personal, family or household purposes. Commercial vehicles, motorcycles, motor homes, and off-road vehicles are not covered by the law.
The law covers problems that occur during the first 12 months or 12,000 miles of ownership. The problem must substantially impair the value, use or safety of the vehicle. Each time you take your vehicle to the dealer for service or repair, the dealer must provide you with a copy of the repair invoice. The dealer must also notify the manufacturer that your vehicle has been brought in a second time for the same problem. As long as the first problem occurs during the first 12 months or 12,000 miles of ownership, you are covered for any subsequent problems occurring after that point.
The law allows the manufacturer three repair attempts for the same problem. If the repairs are unsuccessful, you may demand a refund or replacement vehicle. Also, if your car is at the dealership for any repairs for a cumulative total of thirty days during the first 12 months or 12,000 miles, you may demand a refund or replacement.
The manufacturer is allowed to receive a reasonable offset for your use of the vehicle that you are having problems with. That refund offset can total no more than 10% of the purchase price of the vehicle or $.10 for each mile driven before the first reported repair. If the manufacturer cannot replace your particular model or year, your must be given a comparable vehicle of equal value.
Keep in mind that you lose your lemon law rights if the problem you are experiencing is the result of your modification to or your alteration, abuse or neglect of the vehicle.
Information about the lemon law and how to assert your rights should be found in your owner's manual. Any purchaser of a new motor vehicle who suffers any loss under this law may proceed directly to the manufacturer's arbitration program. Consumers may also bring a civil action in a court of common pleas and, in addition to other relief, is entitled to recover reasonable attorneys' fees and all court costs. If you have an additional question regarding Pennsylvania's Lemon Law, please contact the Bureau of Consumer Protection at 1-800-441-2555.
Automobile Lemon Law
Pennsylvania's Automobile Lemon Law is designed to protect Pennsylvania consumers from unsafe and defective new cars.
The Automobile Lemon Law applies to the PURCHASE or LEASE of new vehicles that are registered in Pennsylvania. The vehicle must be used for personal, family or household purposes. Commercial vehicles, motorcycles, motor homes, and off-road vehicles are not covered by the law.
The law covers problems that occur during the first 12 months or 12,000 miles of ownership. The problem must substantially impair the value, use or safety of the vehicle. Each time you take your vehicle to the dealer for service or repair, the dealer must provide you with a copy of the repair invoice. The dealer must also notify the manufacturer that your vehicle has been brought in a second time for the same problem. As long as the first problem occurs during the first 12 months or 12,000 miles of ownership, you are covered for any subsequent problems occurring after that point.
The law allows the manufacturer three repair attempts for the same problem. If the repairs are unsuccessful, you may demand a refund or replacement vehicle. Also, if your car is at the dealership for any repairs for a cumulative total of thirty days during the first 12 months or 12,000 miles, you may demand a refund or replacement.
The manufacturer is allowed to receive a reasonable offset for your use of the vehicle that you are having problems with. That refund offset can total no more than 10% of the purchase price of the vehicle or $.10 for each mile driven before the first reported repair. If the manufacturer cannot replace your particular model or year, your must be given a comparable vehicle of equal value.
Keep in mind that you lose your lemon law rights if the problem you are experiencing is the result of your modification to or your alteration, abuse or neglect of the vehicle.
Information about the lemon law and how to assert your rights should be found in your owner's manual. Any purchaser of a new motor vehicle who suffers any loss under this law may proceed directly to the manufacturer's arbitration program. Consumers may also bring a civil action in a court of common pleas and, in addition to other relief, is entitled to recover reasonable attorneys' fees and all court costs. If you have an additional question regarding Pennsylvania's Lemon Law, please contact the Bureau of Consumer Protection at 1-800-441-2555.
05-11-2007, 03:43 PM
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thank you! i did some research on google and found some very helpful stuff...i really dont think they are going to want to risk not being able to fix the car...have it cause and accident and hurt someone and then have to deal with the massive law suit...