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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 02:34 PM
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Interesting … they love the xB but aren't terribly fond of the xA.

http://info.detnews.com/autosconsume...x.cfm?id=12071
Old Sep 30, 2003 | 04:31 PM
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I have been driving SCION xA since the mid. August and am very haapy about it. Its style reminds me of Mercedez A class sold in Europe and Asia more than anything else. For the out of door price of $15K, the standard features are impressive. What do they expect from a 1.5 Liter engine? I was ____ed because they compared SCION with Ford Focus!! My friend purchased a brand new Ford Focus despite my advise and he has been spending a great amout of time at the Ford dealer arguing with the Service Manager. On the ohter hand, I have never been to SCION dealer for anything. Yeh, the rubber on windows are not installed well, but that is the only thing I noticed about the quality issue on SCION. I strongly recommend xA to anyone who is looking for an affordable car with a reasonable standard features. The standard stereo really rocks! If you are opted for automatic tranny, xA is the choice as xB is bit too heavy for it.
Old Oct 1, 2003 | 02:43 AM
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I love reading car reviews like this one, where there reviewers basically read various web sites, Scion tech specs and write a review w/o driving the car.

They supposedly drove it for a weekend in hot weater in Detroit, with 2 adults and a dog, and the AC on and they write "Our xA got good fuel economy, at 32 miles per gallon in city driving and 38 mpg on the highway." Wow, amazing that they somehow got exactly the same mpg as printed on the sales sticker.

Here they complain about the "Incomprehensible radio controls" but in their xB review 2 months prior they praise the "Great sound system" - Uhh, they both have the same stereo, why the different review?

Guess we just need to remember to take reviews with a big grain of salt.
Old Oct 1, 2003 | 03:02 AM
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screw the competion...i'm in total love with my xa....I could give a care about negative reviews because every where I drive it, people want to know WTF it is. I tell them it's a new toyota and drive off with a grin.
Old Nov 19, 2003 | 04:46 AM
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I don't have one yet but...I went thru the same stuff with my S2000. Every review about that car talked about the lack of torque and how it's slow below 5000 rpm. (Yet these same morons say the Miata with 1/2 the hp is a fast car.) Total BS. Whatever. Many reviewers are idiots, and I don't give a rat's fat a$$ what the magazine geniuses say. Eff them, and just love your car! :D
Old Nov 19, 2003 | 05:59 AM
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ya, they LOVE the xb...but the xa is underpowered??? dummies.
Old Nov 19, 2003 | 08:01 AM
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i dont care i love my xA for everythig but the motor but this car is as good as my civic and i love them both :D
Old Nov 19, 2003 | 01:45 PM
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13 year olds love it tho!! lol. I parked my XB at a church function last night right next to a lady with an XA.
For the record, I got 2 positive comments about my car from 12 year olds! So I'm REAALLLY hoping that 13 year olds like my car too.
My point is...What's their point?
Hellooooo, it's a small car that has 108HP! Does it do what it should for a car with that type of engine? (rhotorical question) People don't get it.
I love the XA. Sometimes I second guess myself when I look at the "rallly" style possibilities of the XA and go hmmmmmm.
In any case, you know we're tradin the XB in for the open deck when it comes out. Either that or replacing our mini-van with another Scion! :D
Old Nov 19, 2003 | 03:01 PM
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I love mine also. Some people have told me that it's a stupid car. I tell them that they are just upset because they went out and spent 30K on their car, and get 20mpg. I spent half that and get 30.

Plus, in Seattle, no one has one yet. And for being such a stupid car, I sure do get a lot of people asking me where they can get one.

Bottom line, who cares what the reviewers say. I bought the car because I like it, and that's all that matters.
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 12:03 PM
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i hate the look of the XA but hey thats my opinion....i hope they discontinue that piece of crap...XBs rule!!
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 03:36 PM
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What up w/ that review. I think my little xA is rockin'

There must be a little 13 year old girl hidden somewhere in this mans body. hmmmm!
They dunno what there talking about
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 04:00 PM
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These people are obviously mentally retarded. They called the Ford Focus a terrific car. There is no way the Focus is better than the xA.
Old Dec 12, 2003 | 10:45 AM
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I've had my xA since June and I love it.

I also want an xB.
Old Dec 15, 2003 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by kikimaja
These people are obviously mentally retarded. They called the Ford Focus a terrific car. There is no way the Focus is better than the xA.
Well, I don't know about that. Opinions are just that. I know there are Focus owners who wouldn't be caught dead in a Scion, too. Plus, the Focus was named one of Car and Driver's 10 best cars for the fourth year in a row, and was named a best small car pick from Consumer Reports.

I still think the article was a bit harsh.
Old Dec 15, 2003 | 04:19 PM
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Have you ever driven a Focus? I had it as my rental when I got in an accident with my car. The car is a piece of crap. I don't care what the other reports said about the car, I am speaking from experience with the car.
Old Dec 16, 2003 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by kikimaja
Have you ever driven a Focus? I had it as my rental when I got in an accident with my car. The car is a piece of crap. I don't care what the other reports said about the car, I am speaking from experience with the car.
Yes, I drive one on a daily basis. I am dead shocked to Car and Driver naming it a "Ten Best Cars" again . Thats a total of 5 times in a row! Jezzz, ive taken mine into the shop at least that many times this year for various things { Bad ignition, leaky headlights, bad weather seals, oils leaks, car wont start, ECT...}

but i must say, i think the Focus is a good idea, but with bad timing( rear ind. suspention, SVT!!, 2.3 PZEV engine, cool design, ECT} What ____es me off is its reliability, and this is why come June, I will be driving a xB!!!
Old Dec 16, 2003 | 03:28 PM
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the focus won 10 best again, but the wrx,sti and/or lancer evo did not. for shame.

i have not had a lot of experience with the focus, but i have driven a new escort, and that thing was literally the biggest piece of crap i've ever driven, especially for a late model. whatever they are selling that thing for is too much. seriously, that thing was so bad. the seats are made of the softest foam you can buy, and wrapped in the thinnest material available. maybe they intended the escort to be a race car, because everything on it feels so lightweight and cheap. and don't get me started on the power. the throttle is basically just a volume control for the engine. it doesn't really make it go faster. it's like the autopia at disneyland. you push the pedal down as far as it will go and hope for the best.

oh yeah, both scions were in the running to win "10 best" and neither of them made it. so now they have no chance of getting it next year. very sad.
Old Dec 16, 2003 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by kikimaja
Have you ever driven a Focus? I had it as my rental when I got in an accident with my car. The car is a piece of crap. I don't care what the other reports said about the car, I am speaking from experience with the car.
Yes. I actually owned one for one year; a ZX3 with the sport package. I had a lot of problems with it and thus, no longer own it. I liked the way it drove and looked. However, I had a lot of dumb problems with mine that didn't warrant a long life.

Car and Driver does not judge it's 10 Best cars on reliability, resale, and such. They judge it on how it drives and how good of an overall car it is at the moment, not after you've owned it for a year and have had a buttload of problems with it.

There's a reason that the Focus is on that list and it's because it offers a lot of features for the price and drives very well. If you had a rental Focus, you had a base model with the crappy SPI engine, which wouldn't leave me with a great impression either. My ZX3 drove wonderfully, when it wasn't in the shop.

I doubt the Scions will make it on the list – they're not mainstream enough. Most of the cars on the 10 Best list are pretty mainstream or are at the top of their class (e.g. the A4, the Accord, the S2000).
Old Dec 23, 2003 | 06:06 PM
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holdup....leave the focus alone..........DSM's break wayyyyy more then foci any talk about a cheep pice O' crap....are we all forgeting the lil thing called a chevy malibu humm!
Old Dec 23, 2003 | 06:54 PM
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Equally impressive in their own rights, just very different. Next time someone calls either car a piece of crap, ask them where can they get a car with all power equipment, traction control/ vehicle skid control and a factory Pioneer MP3 player for under 15 grand out the door.....NO ONE!!!!

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