Do you know what I am sick of. I'm sick of the freakin tC (no offense, like the car :D) getting all the the aftermarket support . Ok, I know the car is like toyota's RSX-esqe car and it's a US market vehicle....I DON"T CARE!!! I'm sick of the xA being the unwanted step child in the aftermarket. Do we get Carbon Fiber Hatches and Rear Wings(ready to buy not to wait like a year for it to get made) NO!!#@$@. Do we get cheap intakes for like 80 bucks....NO!!! Do we get freakish projector headlights that leak from EBAY....NO!!!(leaking sux anyway). I'm like the only dude with an xA(rs2.0) in my town and its just....well irritating as hell. If we want clean japan-style, we have to pay insane amounts of money for it and wait till we get tenure before it comes in..AHHHH!!! Don't even get me started on the f#$%ing xB. How does the toaster-i-never-saw-a-wind-tunnel-test-in-design-school get more aftermarket support....BAH!! Manufactures....make some kewl new stuff or I'm climbing a clock tower and going on a KILLING SPREE!!!! GRRRRRRRRRR!!!!









I'm just kidding. I like all of the scion cars, especially my xA. I'm just ready for the aftermarket to see what we all see...a great car...great price...and great potential.

I LOVE ALL YOUS GUYS

 

I know where to find a black and blue cf hood. A cf wing should be ready around SEMA, but not colored.

Believe me, I'm ready for an xA also, and have everything but the ICE set, and ready to be installed.

 

I hear ya'. I'd love to see some more love to the egg.

WE MUST HAVE PROJECTOR HEADLIGHTS!!

Yep, I was yelling that one. I need my HID's back. The only way I will do it, is to retrofit a projector headlight for it. I will not put HID's in the stock housing.

That's pretty much the only thing I desperatly need.

 

Nice rant.

 

parts for the xa are definately not cheap. i guess not enough companies have jumped on the bandwagon, though the bright side of that is you tend to find higher quality stuff than you would for something like a civic. if nothing else, it gives serious diy people the chance to make something really cool for a lot less than you'd pay for someone else to do it.

and the day a carbon fiber hatch and spoiler come out, i'll be the happiest man on earth.

 

HAN FREAKIN' SOLO HAS MORE CARBON THAN ME!!!!! BAH!!

 

Even though I have only an xB presently, I feel the xA looks better lowered, on 18s w/ staggered fitment, and a body/lip kit.

 

there are enough people making carbon fiber parts for the xa that you can buy plenty of cool stuff. unfortunately, it's not cheap. i know.

on a side note, you can buy some carbon fiber look vinyl off ebay for like $27.00 shipped and wrap some of your interior pieces if you like that look. i wrapped up all the brushed silver look plastic and it looks great. it doesn't look ricey or cheap, even though it is. i'll venture to say it looks nicer than some of the carbon fiber dash kits i've seen because they are really over done and never look like the car is supposed to have it.

 

That was hilarious! Then again I'm a sci-fi geek.

Yup, slow on the parts for the xA, but this really gives you an opportunity if you think about it. Gives you a chance to start producing your own line of parts!

 

I'm used to being treated like crap for the car I bought by now. I have the the un-natural ability to always buy the car with the wrong enging, the wrong computer, that the only production year that nothing from any other year will fit. Even when I thought I was safe I have gotten boned. Who would think that Ford would ake a version of the 302 in 1975 that was unique to only that year right down to the valve cover gaskets, or a truck made in Canada would have a totaly diffrent wiring harness than any other truck sold in the US? Thost were two of my worst problems, but you get the idea.

With the low production numbers on the xA VS the xB and the tC I have been grabing at everything I can afford now even if I don't install it all at least I will have it to install later when it isn't available.

 

i like the xA's that why i bought one to stand out in the scion crowd!!!

i didn't want to be like every body else and get a xB or a tC

sure they got super chargers and turbos but thats just not the same

xA's is where to be/where its at

 

you know wat, i fully agree, we need more stuff, we need more c/f, and a decent damn prices, we need more performance mods that wont cost me an arm and a leg to get, how about some halo lights, and some HID's, how about a lambo door kit that is straight bolt on, anything at this point would be great, and anything that wont cost me my livelyhood

 

try finds stock parts for a classic mopar very hard and it costs alot (like a 4bbl intake manifold around 300 dollars and a 4bbl carb around 400 dollars that just aint cheap!!!)

with my xA finding parts for it is cake walk and at a good price

 

Hmm, you know we all have something in common here. We all have a really expensive hobby. Auto parts ain't cheep no mater what way you look at it. Just remember when you are shelling out for parts that the person making those parts has to eat.

Rambeling ahead.

Tooling to make parts is not cheep and has to be amoriized over the production run. Pricing is based on how many parts the vendor believes they can sell based on demand. If a vendor believes that the part they are making will be bought by say 5% of all xA owners they will price the part by taking (((tool coust + materal and labor coust for the production run) devided by total number of finished parts for the production run) times 1.35). That will give you the wholesale price. Multiply that by 1.35 for every middle man(probably 3), and you end up with retail price. So your $350 probably coust about $142.25 from the manufacturer. But from the formula you can see that the more parts in a production run the lower the final tooling coust that is passed along to the consumer.

Stupid M.B.A. (I have to use it for something I guess)

 

since i see people want some carbon fiber parts, i'm going to talk to heru at street concept about making a complete carbon fiber g force lip kit for the xa. the front lip is already available and the pics look sweet. i should be receiving it soon.

maybe if enough of us get a buy in he'll lower the price. i paid $400.00 for the front lip shipped so that should give you an idea of the total cost. i know it's expensive but remember, you don't have to have it painted so it's not that bad.

 

here's some links to the kit.

http://www.streetconcept.com/prodima...body_kit_4.JPG

http://www.streetconcept.com/prodima...body_kit_2.JPG

http://www.streetconcept.com/prodima..._fiber_lip.JPG

 

6 piece carbon fiber b pillar kit is on sale for $75.00 if we can get a group buy going. if anyone is interested, let me know.

 

It's called Supply and Demand. It's the flipside of getting a more unique vehicle.

 

b pillar kit is available for $100.00 shipped. sorry about the last post. i ordered mine. get while the getting's good.

 

The fact of the matter is that the bB was already pretty popular in Japan. The aftermarket parts were already available there when Toyota started selling the xB here, so it was mostly just a matter of distributors importing the parts.

The tC has more of a 'traditional' asthetic that lends itself to adoption by the crowd that flocks to cool new 'sport-compacts' and thus quickly started having an aftermarket following.

The xA on the other hand, is more of a traditional wagon. I drove one for almost a week while I was waiting on my box--it left me thinking 'this is a friggin mini-matrix'. It isn't a hatchback, and it isn't really a sport-compact. It's an Econo-Wagon. Toyota published sales figures covering the xA, and despite the fact that they thought it would be zooming off the lots, it was getting trampled by the xB and eventually the tC.

The dealer I ordered my xB from was telling me that in the time they've been selling Scions, they had not sold a single xA--and had only a few people even request to test drive one. They can't sell them. Not to the under-30 crowd that Scion was made to target. Not that many in general. It isn't unique. It's unpopular. And then you get into the supply-demand stuff.

The xA is a fine car, but without the demand for aftermarket parts, there never will be any. It's like they say when talking about the performance of the xB--if you wanted something super fast, you got the wrong car. With the xA, it's that, and if you wanted lots of super-easy aftermarket goodies, you should have got a tC (or a Civic, or anything else you see dozens of on the street everyday).