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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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i drove from victorville to vegas, about 175 miles. me and my fiance in our auto xA, my dad in his auto neon rental, and my brother and his girlfriend in their manual tC. oh, and for some reason we had all the luggage, so we had the most added weight too. anyways, when we got to vegas we all filled up. xA=4.9 gallons, neon=5.6 gallons, tC=7.9 gallons. i thought that was kinda interesting, didn't think it would be that big a difference.
Old Dec 11, 2004 | 06:19 PM
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35 mpg for the xA, 31 mpg for the Neon, 22 mpg for the tC... sounds right on for all of them. Gotta love our little economy hatchbacks
Old Dec 11, 2004 | 09:03 PM
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Booyah!
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 03:34 AM
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if you are actually gettin posted mileage give me a call and tell me how.
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 06:10 PM
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I have filled up my xA once. Probably have to fill it again in a couple of day. It only has about 400 miles on it. I have been driving it pretty easy, like they say to in the break in info in the owners manual. I haven't driven much over 70 mph or greater than 3500 rpm. I got slightly over 32 mpg in a combination of city and freeway driving.

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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 08:22 PM
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Whenever someone would give me crap about the Echo, I'd always look real serious and say "I'll race you". When they'd look at me like I was nuts I'd say "10 gallons of gas - see who can go the farthest..."
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 11:17 PM
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:D :D :D
I'm very happy with the mileage on my xa too!
(provided I don't drive like a bat out of h*ll)

Does anyone ever ask you if your xa is a hybrid?
That's the first question people ask me, then they ask about the mileage. :?
Old Dec 13, 2004 | 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Karu
Does anyone ever ask you if your xa is a hybrid? That's the first question people ask me, then they ask about the mileage. :?
All the time! I think everyone here gets that at some time or another. Maybe someone with a lot of time on their hands should drop a Prius engine and electrical charging system into their Scion
Old Dec 13, 2004 | 01:31 PM
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i dont quite get posted mileage on my xa either (despite the fact that i am only NOT on the highway for 1 of the ~25miles of my commute), but then i also tend to accelerate a little (lot) more aggressively than i should so it doesnt surprise me when i dont get the mileage on the sticker. still, even given that, I'm still pulling in 31-32mpg - and i'm not complaining about that fact.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 12:43 AM
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I get about 31-32mpg with a good blend of city and highway...but granted mine only has 600 miles on it...maybe it will improve after break-in
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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I left the lot with my brand new xA with a full tank of gas....300 miles later (exactly) I put in 8.3 gallons, which comes to 36.1 MPG.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BadKarma
I left the lot with my brand new xA with a full tank of gas....300 miles later (exactly) I put in 8.3 gallons, which comes to 36.1 MPG.
See, I think that's where people are getting different results. How do you know exactly how full a "full" tank was? When I go to top off the tank in a car, the pump may click off, but if I slowly keep putting gas in, I might be able to fit another 3/4 of a gallon in there. That could make a big difference in the math.
Old Dec 15, 2004 | 03:06 AM
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As long as you fill it up the same each time, you can use the pump gauge total. That is, if you let the pump click off and don't fill anymore, do it that way every time, or if you fill after it clicks, do it that way every time. Then use the pump gallons total to calculate the MPG. Obviously, if you let click off one time and then fill it after it clicks off, the calculation is gonna be wrongo!

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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by matt_a
See, I think that's where people are getting different results. How do you know exactly how full a "full" tank was? When I go to top off the tank in a car, the pump may click off, but if I slowly keep putting gas in, I might be able to fit another 3/4 of a gallon in there. That could make a big difference in the math.
I think whether you top off or not is irrelevant. The miles you drove were the miles you drove, and the gallons you put in were the gallons you put in. Dividing the miles you drove by the gallons you put in will always calculate an accurate MPG fuel consumption. Whether I drove 300 miles and put in 8.3 gallons OR drove 72.2 miles and put in 2 gallons, I'll get the same MPG figure both times.

You are correct, however, that there are variables that cause everyone's figures to differ. Not everyone has the same mods installed. Some mods improve fuel consumption and others make it worse.....plus all the mods add (or subtract) weight from the cars, which alter the fuel consumption. Also, if you drive like you're playing Gran Tourismo all the time (like I do), then obviously you won't get 38 MPG or better, while other more sane drivers will.
Old Dec 15, 2004 | 03:22 PM
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I don't think you quite got what I meant. Most people calculate their milage like this:

-You fill up your tank
-you drive X number of miles
-you fill the tank again
-you devide the number of miles driven by the amount of gas used.

The problem with this method, is that you may not "fill" the car the same each time. One time you may stop pumping as soon as the pump clicks off the first time. The next time, it may click off sooner if the gas was flowing in faster. Now you have less gas in the tank then the first time. Or, you may keep squeezing a little more in. Now you have more gas in than the first time. Either way, your results will be very different. The only way to do it accuratly, is to be sure that you have the exact same amount of gas in both "full" tanks. That may be hard to do.
Old Dec 15, 2004 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by matt_a
I don't think you quite got what I meant. Most people calculate their milage like this:

-You fill up your tank
-you drive X number of miles
-you fill the tank again
-you devide the number of miles driven by the amount of gas used.

...The only way to do it accuratly, is to be sure that you have the exact same amount of gas in both "full" tanks. That may be hard to do.
This is true, but any fluctuation in fill-up will be averaged over a large enough sample. After 8469 miles and 31 fill-ups I have an average of 28.8, with a range of 22-34. This is under all kinds of driving conditions, speeds, and brands of gas.
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