2ZZ-GE Engine Swap in my 05 Scion xB - Scionlife.com

Notices
Scion xA/xB 1st-Gen Drivetrain & Power Engine and transmission discussions...

2ZZ-GE Engine Swap in my 05 Scion xB

Old 05-03-2018, 06:24 PM
  #1  
Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 15
Default 2ZZ-GE Engine Swap in my 05 Scion xB

deleted my post. Carry on

Last edited by Porsche; 05-04-2018 at 03:34 AM.
Porsche is offline  
Old 05-04-2018, 02:11 AM
  #2  
Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 15
Default

I got the engine started shortly after my first post today. Iíll post a video on YouTube and link here later
Porsche is offline  
Old 05-04-2018, 03:27 AM
  #3  
jct
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member

 
jct's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 13,945
Default

sounds more like that guy paid a shop to do all the hard work and poof a simple swap
jct is offline  
Old 05-04-2018, 03:32 AM
  #4  
Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 15
Default

Lol itís my car and I worked on it along with one of my mechanics. I own the shop. Donít think Iíll be updating here though
Porsche is offline  
Old 05-08-2018, 02:15 AM
  #5  
jct
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member

 
jct's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 13,945
Default

and that's cool cause this place is like an abandoned town
jct is offline  
Old 05-09-2018, 02:40 AM
  #6  
jct
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member

 
jct's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 13,945
Default

Found the video where the guy said he put on in the xB which found to be totally false...

Last edited by MR_LUV; 05-09-2018 at 09:46 AM.
jct is offline  
Old 05-11-2018, 07:50 PM
  #7  
Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 15
Default

Originally Posted by jct View Post
sounds more like that guy paid a shop to do all the hard work and poof a simple swap
After rereading your first post I think you were referring to that other guy on YouTube. If that's what you meant then I apologize for what I said.

With that being said let me give you guys an update. So the engine is in and all 4 motor mounts are on. All of the accessories are attached as well. I had to use a lot of Celica GT-S parts for the non engine components. It was a whole lot of custom work.
Now I'm waiting on Celica wheels, the fronts are going to be 15x6.5 and I'm going to keep the rears 15x6 and got some rubber on the way 205/55/15. The next thing on the list will be the wiring, which is gonna be a lot of hard work. I'll post a vid on YouTube when the car is all finished.

Last edited by MR_LUV; 05-11-2018 at 10:24 PM.
Porsche is offline  
Old 05-11-2018, 07:53 PM
  #8  
Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 15
Default

Originally Posted by jct View Post
Found the video where the guy said he put on in the xB which found to be totally false...
How did you find out he was lying?
Porsche is offline  
Old 05-14-2018, 02:03 AM
  #9  
jct
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member

 
jct's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 13,945
Default

jct is offline  
Old 05-14-2018, 04:03 PM
  #10  
Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 15
Default

I saw that thread, it doesn't mean he doesn't have a 2zz in there.It does sound like it could be more than bolt ons. On the other hand I don't know how he kept his car 4 lug, but he could've just went a different route from me.
Porsche is offline  
Old 05-17-2018, 05:29 PM
  #11  
Moderator
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 319
Default

And still no pictures...
MileHightC is offline  
Old 05-17-2018, 06:42 PM
  #12  
Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 15
Default

Originally Posted by MileHightC View Post
And still no pictures...





Porsche is offline  
Old 05-21-2018, 10:20 PM
  #13  
Moderator
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 319
Default

Looks as if there is still a fair bit of work to be done...I researched the 1ZZ and 2ZZ swaps and both of them are far from bolt-in and require a good deal of customization as you're finding out.

After researching these two options, pricing out costs including built motors that produced a fair bit of power and just general hassle, I've decided a turbo 1NZ is the way to go. Even building the motor and fabbing the hot and cold sides for a turbo is far easier than either of the ZZ swaps from what I can see.
MileHightC is offline  
Old 05-22-2018, 03:18 AM
  #14  
Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 15
Default

Originally Posted by MileHightC View Post
Looks as if there is still a fair bit of work to be done...I researched the 1ZZ and 2ZZ swaps and both of them are far from bolt-in and require a good deal of customization as you're finding out.

After researching these two options, pricing out costs including built motors that produced a fair bit of power and just general hassle, I've decided a turbo 1NZ is the way to go. Even building the motor and fabbing the hot and cold sides for a turbo is far easier than either of the ZZ swaps from what I can see.
iím Almost done actually. Put in a custom battery bracket, radiator, coolant, ps fluid and started her up. Iím gonna replace the alternator tomorrow cause itís bad and add some trans fluid. Then Iím going to take it to the muffler shop and get an alignment.

total cost so far is around the $2k mark
Porsche is offline  
Old 05-23-2018, 02:10 PM
  #15  
Moderator
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 319
Default

But the 2ZZ is just a 'puller' motor, correct...it hasn't been rebuilt?
MileHightC is offline  
Old 05-23-2018, 03:28 PM
  #16  
Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 15
Default

Originally Posted by MileHightC View Post
But the 2ZZ is just a 'puller' motor, correct...it hasn't been rebuilt?
yes. I just did the timing gasket, valve cover gasket. Engine was really clean when I opened it up and runs great
Porsche is offline  
Old 05-28-2018, 07:45 AM
  #17  
Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member

 
Gerry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 63
Default

Nice job!
Gerry is offline  
Old 06-20-2018, 08:57 PM
  #18  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 1
Default

Where are you located? Iím out in Vegas and canít find a shop thatís willing to do this. Would you be interested in swapping my xB?
Jpgillespie24 is offline  
Old 08-07-2018, 02:25 AM
  #19  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 8
Default

I came across this thread and figured I would join two so I could respond LOL. I'm in the middle of a 2-ZZ swap myself and I'm not sure why the wiring is the hard part. Matter of fact it's extremely easy. Y'all probably don't know this but the 2003-04 Matrix is a better donor. Simply because the ECU is plug and play. You could use the engine harness but it's slightly different than Scion where it connects to the fuse box on the driver side. So I just used the Scion engine harness. The only thing you need from The Matrix harness is the two wires that go to the lift cylinder Lloyd and then the wire that goes to the lift oil pressure switch. If you have a 06 Scion I believe they already have the two wire knock sensor but if you have a older model like me you'll have to snag the wires for the knock sensor and then you just hook those wires to the corresponding location in the ECU plug. It will still run without it. Matter of fact my xA is an automatic and the Matrix manual transmission ECU will crank up and run the1-NZ Motor. I will be keeping the 4 lug. I will be using all Factory parts nothing custom as far as the draft ran other than the driver side transmission mount

Last edited by MR_LUV; 08-07-2018 at 02:27 AM. Reason: typo
mr2gq is offline  
Old 08-07-2018, 09:40 PM
  #20  
Moderator
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 319
Default

You'll have to let us know how it runs and feels in comparison to the 1NZ you replaced...in my opinion, unless you're going to build the 2ZZ and go with a healthy N/A setup or boost it seems like a lot of work to have, what is essentially, a 'top-end focused' motor.
MileHightC is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: 2ZZ-GE Engine Swap in my 05 Scion xB


Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

© 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.