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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 03:09 AM
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today my xb fried 2 maf and I dont know WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
I read a lots of threads about it but anyone tells the reason.
wath happen with this maf's???????????????
Im gone look tomorrow and do some test's in my xb an I will post later!
Old Dec 17, 2006 | 12:55 PM
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today my xb fried 2 maf and I dont know WHYY... I read a lots of threads about it but anyone tells the reason. wath happen with this maf's?...
DTC P0103 MASS OR VOLUME AIR FLOW CIRCUIT HIGH INPUT
Detection Condition:
When the mass air flow sensor circuit has a short for more
than 3 sec. under the 4,000 rpm engine speed.
Possible Trouble Areas:
- Open or short in mass air flow sensor circuit.
- Mass air flow sensor
- ECM
Diagnosis:
After confirming DTC ”P0100, P0102 or P0103”, use the hand-held tester or the OBD II scan tool to confirm the mass air flow ratio from the ”DIAGNOSIS / ENHANCED OBD II / DATA LIST / ALL”.
Air Flow Value (gm/s)
Approx. 0.0 = Mass air flow sensor power source circuit open, or VG circuit open or shorted.
271.0 or more = E2G circuit open.
Old Dec 18, 2006 | 12:02 AM
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I do the test and everything point to a bad MAF
I think that maybe be the ECU because they fried 2 maf in one day
so I need a new MAF.
Old Dec 18, 2006 | 12:19 AM
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Are you running a stock intake?
Old Dec 18, 2006 | 12:27 AM
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KllrB Posted: 12/17/06 6:19PM Post subject:

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Are you running a stock intake?
hi man, tomorrow is supouse you got your e-manage
No man I have a AEM clone from e-bay! but for a long time
Old Dec 18, 2006 | 12:57 AM
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You might want to check the wiring going to the MAF. There are instances where one of the wires break off due to engine vibration. I have only known this to happen on the stock intake system, but at least this is something you might want to check on.
Old Dec 18, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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I'm thinking it's a wire problem too. The MAF is just a sensor and needs a good signal to work. Never heard of frying one. Just inspect all the wires going to it. You might find that one is cut or shorted out. Good luck and let us know how it goes.
Old Dec 19, 2006 | 01:40 AM
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bB2NER Posted: 12/18/06 4:30PM Post subject:

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I'm thinking it's a wire problem too. The MAF is just a sensor and needs a good signal to work. Never heard of frying one. Just inspect all the wires going to it. You might find that one is cut or shorted out. Good luck and let us know how it goes.
Im sorry about my english but I said fried is damage(my english is very poor )

my xb damage 2 MAF and I do all the test to the wiring and everything is ok
I test the 2 maf in a ECHO today and the mafs are gone(2)
so I need a new one ,so I gone go to the junkyard tomorrow to find one
I will update later
Old Dec 19, 2006 | 02:20 AM
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Sorry to hear that they are bad. Happy hunting!
Old Dec 19, 2006 | 08:02 AM
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normally a bad maf from an intake filter that is overoiled and the oil hitting the maf and then fubarring it.
Old Dec 19, 2006 | 11:39 PM
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I have luck today
I found a "brand new" corolla in my friends paint shop thas was totalled
and they serve for my "donor" maf (I think they dont need anymore )
so for know is everything ok so I can spend my money in other mod for my baby
Old Dec 20, 2006 | 12:21 AM
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I take it that all Toyota MAFs are the same. Glad you got one that works plus the price was right.
Old Dec 20, 2006 | 12:31 AM
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jajajajaja
thanks!
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:03 AM
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There is a another more likely possibility for you getting a MAF code P0103, that it is dirty. Aftermarket intake? Or poor maintence.

Here is why it can cuase a CEL. The MAF has a wire that is heated, the passing airflow cools it down creating a certain voltage, depeding how much air passes over this element and cools it depends on the voltage it inputs to the ECM, allowing the ECM to calculate airflow.

Now if this element gets dirty it has no way to have the airflow cool it down properly if at all, thus giving a false airflow reading or just not responding. Believe it or not a dirty MAF is a COMMON problem. Toyota MAF's just don't fail, only in rare cases. simple solution is to clean the MAF.

Checking the wiring is good in all if 1) the car is old 2) Someone has been pulling on the wiring or playing under the hood. I am not saying wiring cannot be at fault, but it is unlikely considering the age of the car and how well toyota engineers and produces cars.
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Scorpius01 Posted: 12/21/06 12:03AM Post subject: Some more incite

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There is a another more likely possibility for you getting a MAF code P0103, that it is dirty. Aftermarket intake? Or poor maintence.

Here is why it can cuase a CEL. The MAF has a wire that is heated, the passing airflow cools it down creating a certain voltage, depeding how much air passes over this element and cools it depends on the voltage it inputs to the ECM, allowing the ECM to calculate airflow.

Now if this element gets dirty it has no way to have the airflow cool it down properly if at all, thus giving a false airflow reading or just not responding. Believe it or not a dirty MAF is a COMMON problem. Toyota MAF's just don't fail, only in rare cases. simple solution is to clean the MAF.

Checking the wiring is good in all if 1) the car is old 2) Someone has been pulling on the wiring or playing under the hood. I am not saying wiring cannot be at fault, but it is unlikely considering the age of the car and how well toyota engineers and produces cars.
yeah I know thats a dirty maf is a problem but I cleaned out the 2 mafs and nothing work for me.I do a good maintenance to my xB(I'm a auto tech) and I travel a lot so a good maintenance is primordial for me
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How did you clean them? What chemical did you use? How long was the exposure for the MAF and the chemical used to clean it? Expose it too long and it eats the MAF element ruining it.

I am a Toyota tech so my exposure to the toyota/scion product is extensive, and I am intriqued by your problem.
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Scorpius01 Posted: 12/22/06 10:34PM Post subject:

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How did you clean them? What chemical did you use? How long was the exposure for the MAF and the chemical used to clean it? Expose it too long and it eats the MAF element ruining it.

I am a Toyota tech so my exposure to the toyota/scion product is extensive, and I am intriqued by your problem.
Is good to have a toyota tech in here!
I use eletrical contact cleaner to clean them, but the first one fail like after 2 years of use and the second one fail like 4 hours of use (note, the second one is a used maf, not new) I did all the test the service manual have and everything is ok so maybe the second one is already to fail when I use it(sorry if you dont understand something)
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HAve you checked the freeze frame data for the code?
Old Dec 31, 2006 | 02:03 AM
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