Yea, EVERYONE wants to get there moneys worth when they buy a product...so I don't know why some of you guys are riding on peoples coattails...

Hey, spend 250 on your intake--the guy next to you will spend 180 or so, and kick your ___ doing it. But hey...it's all good because the guy you bought it from was "cool" and even if his claims were high and mighty--they weren't exactly justified in any way shape or form...but hey, he's a cool guy right!

 

I will totally post up my results, mmm..I thought the SPFR was supposed to be dyno tested already. I don't understand how the results differ. :? Eric , you wanna add your two cents?

 

Now your gettin it

 

LOL...freakin Showpao man...I needa buy you a drink sometime bro. LOL.

 

Dayam.. Only free dyno time you could get was at midnight???

Anyways, Sorry to hear about the SPFR intake. That intake was so hyped up too. Almost had me want to convert my injen to a SPFR..Just kidding I love my injen. I figured that if they make some awesome intakes for other ride, of course they are gonna make top notch ____ for the box.

Anyways.. :D GREAT WRITE UP!!! LET'S DO THE AXEL BACK DYNO TESTS NOW!!!!!

 

Hey I told him that I was going to have a shootout (so if he told you otherwise then...)and I also believe that Jon is a good guy. I've known him before he even started SPFR when TSW started so if you think I have something against him then you are wrong.

Do you think that I'm out to slander him? If you do then you got this all wrong.

I offered to pay for it because he is single man operation and everyone is not in business so that they can give away things for free. Beside I figured I would be running it after the dyno testing anyway because I had faith in it since you Besk and the many other people in this board talked so highly of it.

As for faulty install, ask Jon, I called him while we were doing the install to get his take on why I was having a difficult time putting it on. He ran me through it and I got it done.

Like I said before he's taking it back and he's not going to charge me. As for the exchange of money...there wasn't any but I was still planning on paying either way.

I did this to get the numbers out.....read as you want but the fact is people buy products believing that they will get claimed power. I just wanted to show people what I got. And if SPFR need be take it back to the drawing board or get the manufacturers to inspect the mold then it's to his and his consumers benefit.

The only favorites I'm trying to play is for the owner of Scions.

As for ShowPao, if you can ____ more power out then maybe you should market your ___ as the next intake upgrade!!! j/k You'd corner the market and also stink up the market :D

 

Whoops I meant 12pm noon time you guys. Sorry.

Thanks for pointing out Komplex

 

did i say anything about slander? geeeeez! it was in no way meant like that - but you didn't pay for the intakes so you souldn't have put that down (even if you inteneded to pay, no money had changed hands, so it make it sound bad)

and there are all kinds of possiblilites why the intake didn't put up numbers, that's all i was saying about that.

jon really thinks it was a bad pipe from the manufacturing plant.

since he allways installs the intakes for people, he's able to inspect them as he's working - with the one sealed in the box from the plant, it's possible that something was wrong, and since he wasnt there to do the install there's now way to really know, until he gets the pipe back and has a look.

and ya, it is a good thing that this happened because he's on the ___ of his manufacturer about QC, he's been on the phone since yesterday to get them to tighen up, and he'll be hand inspecting every unit before it goes out to a customer now

it's all good, we'll see what happens when we run that pipe against my intake - if they run the same, then that's that - if mine shows a signifigant increase, we know it was a faulty unit - no biggie!

 

Looks like someone just got...OWNED!@

Hey Mark...thanks again man...good luck at your new place of work bro. We'll chill sometime and talk about intakes...LOL.

Mark here really is looking out for us Scion guys--and not NUT SWINGING from a certain company because he's buddy buddy with them--like I said in a previous post--there is a whole lot of that going on here, and it sucks, but some people just feel like they have to resort to that kinda bull____ for some odd reason.

Thanks Mark--for not being one of those sell-outs.

 

HAHAHA I'm on the floor!!!

 

Well then that is one thing that can be improved upon then.

Do you have the owner of AEM, Injen, or EL Prototypes come out and install your intake? It should be ,in the most part, a DIY kit.

For Jon's sake I hope he doesn't have to install every single one of the intakes that he sells. Also all inspections for defects should be done after production.....not after sale.

 

I'm only marketing my ___ to the female scion owners. That way the girlz will have more horsepower to play with, among other things

bang...bang

 

EXACTLY--why does someone have to go through all that stuff just to buy a brand new product that should work in the first place?

Just think of what I said earlier...imagine I was the next in line to buy that particular SPFR piece and never dynoed it to see...my faith would have resided completely in SPFR's claims...but little would I know that my piece had a "defect" in it. No biggie to you and jon of course, right?

man...if you think coming up with excuses and stuff makes you sound better--to tell you the truth, it's doing the opposite.

 

But if you were next in line, got the bad unit, waited till this shootout where a good unit was used...you wouldn't think anything about it. You'd think your unit is exactly the same as the good one used in the test. Theoretically speaking of course. Then again, I'm just here for comical support

 

Thank goodness.....and before you market your "Power Making ___" to the ladies make sure you double wipe....alright.

 

lol! yeah, you wouldn't want to look like that dude playing twister!


seriously, I doubt I would notice a 1HP gain, and I drive scions all day for my job. My dealer car has an AEM in it, and next to my personal car with the SPFR, there's no contest. Jon's intake smokes the AEM, which leads me to doubt the numbers on this shootout.

The fact that Injen and EL were invited, and Jon wasn't adds further suspicion, and the fact that bBist arranged the Dyno (nothing personal Steve, but can we honestly say you're unbiased?) leaves me unconvinced.

Everything else aside (The quality control/ease of install, as well as the feud between bBist and SPFR are irrelevant, and are all issues for another topic), the debate here seems to be HP (and with all these intakes, it's minimal compared to T/C or S/C), and I'd like to see the numbers done again, when Jon is present to inspect the piece and install it. Yeah, from a company standpoint they should all be shipped free from defects and be DIY, but that's another issue.

Regardless, I appreciate the hard work Mark, and thanks to all who participated. I'm just eager to see if someone else tries to repeat the experiment.

 

Yeah dragstips in your tidey whiteys are not too pretty especially when you are playing with the women.

 

You guys are hillarious!!!

Good job Scionic, glad to see that everything went okay.

 

not all people look into the hp numbers when buying an intake. and this is talking from a show car point of view. if two different products were out and one only made 1+hp difference but wasn't as attractive. i'd sacrifice the 1+hp gain to gain the looks. and remember this is from a show car point of view. on the other hand if you build a full race car who cares what it looks like.

 

attention passengers the capt just want to remind you the landing strip has not been wiped down properly so its going to be a bit bumpy :D