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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 12:17 AM
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Default It's about Time some comes up with this Swap..

I just ordered a 4-AGE 20 Valve Engine for my xB. I know about the smog and all that but, I got my Bro to do the Swap for me at his Shop.

Anyways, I need to know what Swaps have been done on these and what parts would I need besides the JDM Engine and Trans.

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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 07:23 AM
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I wouldn't mind to see that swap. but I really want to hear that and see that pass by that would be the sh**! keep us updated and take a lot pictures and I mean a lot lol
Old Apr 18, 2007 | 10:42 PM
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1) Caps
2) Search, this has been discussed before. This swap probably won't happen.
Old Apr 18, 2007 | 10:47 PM
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It's probably the easiest xB swap to do. You'll need axle shafts, engine wiring harness, computer, motor mounts..etc.
Try and get a 6 speed with LSD from the overseas Corolla.

p.s. if you have to ask questions like this on a forum, your not ready for a motor swap.

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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 11:40 PM
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I JUST ORDERED A 4AGE 20 VALVE ENGINE FOR MY XB. I KNOW ABOUT THE SMOG AND ALL THAT BUT, I GOT MY BRO TO DO THE SMOG FOR ME AT HIS SHOP. ANY WAYS. I NEED TO KNOW WHAT SWAPS HAVE BEEN DONE ON THESE AND WHAT PARTS WOULD I NEED BESIDES THE JDM ENGINE AND TRAN. SORRY CAPS IS ON.
yeah he can ILLEGALLY pass it until you get pulled over and your hood gets poppwed.
Old Apr 18, 2007 | 11:42 PM
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It's probably the easiest xB swap to do. You'll need axle shafts, engine wiring harness, computer, motor mounts..etc.
Try and get a 6 speed with LSD from the overseas Corolla. p.s. if you have to ask questions like this on a forum, your not ready for a motor swap.
1ZZ or 2ZZ are probably better. cause they can be legal very easily.

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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 12:16 AM
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its probably the easiest xb swap to do. Youll need axleshafts, engine wiring harness, computer, motor mounts....etc etc. Try and get a 6 speed with lsd from the overseas corolla.


p.s. if you have to ask questions liek this ona forum your not ready for a motor swap.
1zz or 2zz are probably better. cause they can be legal very easily.

i didnt say better, i said easy.

and i kinda like the 4age it was the begining of 4 valves for toyota. It was a marvel when it came out. I had one in my mr2, nt a powerhouse but a neat motor. And very easy to put in an xb.

1zz -legal
4age-neat (and a 6speed lsd available)
3sgte-POWER!
Old Apr 19, 2007 | 03:00 AM
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I don't think anyone here has successfuly done a swap. Too many variables. Are you the one to prove us wrong?
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Great motor, built many silvertops and blacktops, high comps, gze and old 3 ribs. 4ag's are my specialty. However what makes it illegal is you are dropping in an engine that is older than your vehicle. That is a high no no. Engine has to be the same age or newer than your vehicle. If you want to chance it, good luck, will be a fun toy On standalone you can make about 155whp n/a with minor mods. If it is a silvertop then about 135-140whp.
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its a black top with 6 speed lsd. someones got to do it. cops wont pop the hood where i live and if they do theyre too retarded. to know what it is. only in ca would they confuse my stock exhaust with an illegal catback.
Old Apr 19, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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i thought the 4age was a RWD engine, what trans are you using?
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4ag cane in FWD, mid engine and RWD configs in auto, 5 speed and 6 speed trannies. Most versatile engine toyota made IMO
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So what are you going to do for:

Motor Mounts?
Tranny?
Fuel?
Engine management?
Drive shafts?
Cooling?
Retaining P/S & AC?
How tall is the motor? Will it clear the hood?
Exhaust?


Maybe it's all easy. As easy as dropping a VR6 or a 20VT into ANY VW... probably not. Would it be worthwhile? 20v ITB bangin' off the limiter... yea I could dig it... if it was a clean swap and not some utter hack job.
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clue me in, which car did it come in FWD?

im sitting here and i cant think of any
Old Apr 19, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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AE92 Corolla
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im going

4age blacktop (fwd) of course

custom mouts

jdm fwd 6 speed tranny with lsd

jdm ecu

driveshaft shop axles
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hmmm

i always thought the 92 was RWD

learn something new every day

its a good motor to go with if it works out
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Originally Posted by redwar1441
Originally Posted by hotbox05
Originally Posted by redwar1441
its probably the easiest xb swap to do. Youll need axleshafts, engine wiring harness, computer, motor mounts....etc etc. Try and get a 6 speed with lsd from the overseas corolla.


p.s. if you have to ask questions liek this ona forum your not ready for a motor swap.
1zz or 2zz are probably better. cause they can be legal very easily.

i didnt say better, i said easy.

and i kinda like the 4age it was the begining of 4 valves for toyota. It was a marvel when it came out. I had one in my mr2, nt a powerhouse but a neat motor. And very easy to put in an xb.

1zz -legal
4age-neat (and a 6speed lsd available)
3sgte-POWER!

there's a 6 speed for the 1zz it is on a 2zz but they work with 1zz as well , and the 4age isn't gonna be too much easier to do at all. if anything a lot harder putting obd1 stuff into an obd2 car.

i'm knocking the 4ag at all.
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Originally Posted by Garage1217
4ag cane in FWD, mid engine and RWD configs in auto, 5 speed and 6 speed trannies. Most versatile engine toyota made IMO
I dunno i'd argue 3sgte. or 22r/20r

3sge/gte was used in fwd celica's , awd celica's , mid engine rwd mr2's , rwd altezza's , and I believe they came in auto 5spd and 6spd as well
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Originally Posted by jdmbb06
its a black top with 6 speed lsd. someones got to do it. cops wont pop the hood where i live and if they do theyre too retarded. to know what it is. only in ca would they confuse my stock exhaust with an illegal catback.
cops won't pop your hood? are you insane. a modified car in so cal WILL get it's hood popped. stock exhaust or not man.



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