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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 08:30 AM
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So I have a question for all you xB owners. At this point, is it possible to truely get a quick xB. One that can go toe to toe with sti's and evo's?

The reason I ask is because I have dumped 3g's on my xB thus far and I am looking for more. This is what I have now:

17's - 5Zigen Hyperblack
Lowering Springs (2 in drop)
boilovers - performance struts/shocks
front strut tie bar
carbon fiber hood
quick shifter
performance cluth
TRD sport muffler
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I NEED more. I wanna come to a stop light, rev my engine, make some rxs driver laugh thinking I am slow and then blow him away. I have looked around and ask some buddies of mine that are heavily into moding (nip) there cars and they say I have come to the end of the road. What about the turbo, turbo timer, intercooler, blow-out valve, chip, etc.?

Do these exist, I have looked around the internet and have come short. I ask you all now. Thanks.
Old Aug 24, 2005 | 11:28 AM
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Anything CAN be done with enough time, fabrication and money.

Unfortunately matching the xB's acceleration to the evo or sti would likely cost more than an evo or sti and would still lag behind them in other performance measures.

If you want to go that fast, sell the box and buy an SRT4.

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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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Unfortunatly I agree.

The mods you've done so far, are nice, but not speed improving
to the level you need.
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If you want to go faster, rebuild the engine yourself..........or, you could just buy a WRX....
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lol hmm not exactly the answer I was looking for but thanks anways...
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It is not possible to install a supercharger in an xB.



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Ah Max I was actually aware that a Supercharger in an xB was possible. The reason I asked about a Turbocharger was because most of my friends said I would better off with a Turbo.

The reasoning if I remember correctly was because an xB is not heavy enough to need the intial jolt that a Supercharger provides. The late game, higher end boast of a Turbo is more beneficial. Please, correct me if I am wrong.

Also Max I am interested, do you know how many horses your xB is clocking right now?
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That is a nice supercharger, but It's not going to make an xB leave an STi at the line. Actually, that probably won't get you close enough to an LT1 camaro to read the rear license plate.... and the LT1 camaro can probably be purchased outright for less than the s/c in that picture.

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I don't want to hate on you but, if you wanted race, you bought the wrong car. You can make it pretty, you can improve the handling, but to make it fast (eighth, quarter fast) your money would be better served on a different vehicle. I have a Yamaha race cart in garage that runs circles around the xB, WRX or just about any other 4banger... You simply chose the wrong car for the application you seek. Enjoy it for what it is - a fun car!
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Originally Posted by nickfuryx
Ah Max I was actually aware that a Supercharger in an xB was possible. The reason I asked about a Turbocharger was because most of my friends said I would better off with a Turbo.

The reasoning if I remember correctly was because an xB is not heavy enough to need the intial jolt that a Supercharger provides. The late game, higher end boast of a Turbo is more beneficial. Please, correct me if I am wrong.
Sorry about the SC/TC mixup, it's early. I believe Blitz makes a TC for the xB.

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Also Max I am interested, do you know how many horses your xB is clocking right now?
Probably about 110 bhp (that's not my engine in the pic)
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<<<<<<<<Garett T20 turbo, intercooled, turbo timer etc...check the profile for pics, too lazy to post them.
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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theres also the option of a lightened flywheel, thats good for some pep! but not nearly as much as the other f/i options listed here!

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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Simplyscion
<<<<<<<<Garett T20 turbo, intercooled, turbo timer etc...check the profile for pics, too lazy to post them.
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damnnn. Whats your horsepower output now? Is the xB quick or what?
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I put around 122 to the wheels on an automatic but I dont think my car was running right at the time...figure thats about 132 to the wheels if I was a stick.
Old Aug 25, 2005 | 03:49 PM
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Although I do like the idea of a speedy scion, I don't know if it could really be classed a 'sleeper' since it doesn;t blend into traffic.

The other thing is, a stock old 240sx puts down more hp at the wheels and is rwd and can be found for less than the turbo parts for an xB.

I can understand if you love the box and just need a little more power to make it bearable on the highway.... that would justify the turbo.... but if a fast car is your goal, there are more suitable starting points.

If I had any significant highway commuting, I don't think I would have bought the xB.

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I could really care less about how quick my xB is...this is the first car that I have ever put a turbo on and was a great learning experience...not to mention even when the car runs like sh*t it still runs better than a stock xB
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And that makes sense. You did it to make the car more driveable.

I'm actually hoping you clock in a lot of trouble-free miles on that thing, because your daily boosted xB has me pondering the project.

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Simplyscion — any idea what your MPG is with your turbo setup? I assume you must run premium gas now, too, correct?
Old Aug 25, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Simplyscion
I could really care less about how quick my xB is...this is the first car that I have ever put a turbo on and was a great learning experience...not to mention even when the car runs like sh*t it still runs better than a stock xB
Ouch, minimal improvement for the cost and effort put into it.
And I've heard through speed shops in the area that the S/C gives even less then
even a basic turbo setup.

I'm glad it was a good learning experience. If you were hitting 160HP-180HP, I'd
be lining up for one. But for under 150HP, it's not worth the effort.

Hell, I can get a 30 year old VW bug engine rebuilt, N/A that has 140HP!!
(very much considering it for my Porsche 914 for next summer! Woot!)
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You guys all seem to forget the fact that I only put down 122 to the wheels on 5-6 psi. Add another 10 hp if it was a manual so that would be about 132 to the wheels...add another id say 8-10 whp for 2 more pounds of boost and that would bring me to about 140whp (if I had a 5 speed). Stock 5 speed xB puts down 92 hp to the wheels. Thats almost a 40 hp increase on a vehicle that only has 92 hp to begin with. Im not gonna say what I spent on my kit cause I pieced together a much stronger kit than whats out there available in the stores, but all I can say is Im right there w/ everyone when it comes to hp mods dollar for dollar. Everyone is quick to spend $200-$300 on a header that they are lucky to pick up 2-3 HP with, or an intake system that will give them an extra 3-4 HP that cost upwards of $150-$200....or better yet (I love this one...) Going out and spending $250-$300 on an axel back can exhaust w/ the stanley cup welded on as the tip that will give you nothing but loud noise and no performance gains. Im not hating on of these products, cause I have had the intake, header, sorry but no stanley cup axel back but a cat back instead...all im trying to say is I spent the money to get where I was with those mods, but was not happy enough w/ the gains. HP to Dollar ratio is the same no matter how you look at it.

In no way am I trying to offend anyone w/ an axel back, I understand some people just want them for the sound but why not splurge and spend the extra $100 to get the performance from the mod.

To each is own



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