eric_m

i just saw this while checking out their website like i do periodically:

http://www.scioned.com/turbos.asp

looks like a pretty good setup if it works like they say it will.

1badassxb

Very cool. Hey Eric, are you going to get that turbo once you sell your stereo equip? I'd drop the airbag system and go with the turbo's bro. It's your choice though.

bBted

so $2499 is for stage 1 without intercooler?

PSyCHo-RaGe

Anybody know if that kit will be getting a CARB EO?

Longoscion

I heard Eric will be the first one with the kit on his car. Eric, if you have any questions you can ask Teddy tonight at the meet. He'll have all the info you need.

saken4

I talked to Spy a couple of days ago and they said the kit should be ready in 4 weeks. I cant wait to see one in person...

its_ikon

has spy said anything about the reliability of the kit? It looks like the will out about 135-150 hp, but i wonder if that is to the wheels or not.

Longoscion

It should be very reliable. Have you seen their kit on the MR-S? It has 308 hp to the ground and 340 to the flywheel on pump gas.

thefoth

I'd like to see the results of some dyno time, pictures of what the kit looks like, and what the install involves (w/pics).

R210K

As soon as we get it all done we will post pics and dyno sheet, don't worry.

teddy

scionara

Any updates on Spy's Turbo Kits.. The website provides minimal description and I have a few questions below. Maybe someone from this Forum may know the answers to my questions.

1. Which Garret Turbo (t3 or t3/t4)?
Does it come with oil feed/return line?
2. Maverik Motorsports Manifold & downpipe... does it come with all needed Gaskets and what size is the downpipe?
3. What kind of fuel management system? is it programmable?
4. What kind of computer? Is it going to be a piggy-back on the stock ECU or is it a replacement to the stock ECU or just modded stock ECU?
5. Will the new computer removed the Scion xB's top speed 100MPH limitation?
6. What size is the plumbing (circumference) ?
7. Which hardware is included?
8. Does it come with a manual boost controller or electronic boost controller?
What's the stock boost and what's the max boost settings?
9. Any pictures of the complete turbo kit including all hardware?

I guess all the gauges are extra (a/f mix, boost, egt gauges ).

its_ikon

the kit will probably come with a t25 or something small and might have a boost level somewhere around 5-7 psi. i am just making assumptions, but that would be my best guess.

R210K

1. Which Garret Turbo (t3 or t3/t4)?
T3 are you crazy?! I don't build cars with Turbo lag. We are looking at a couple of Turbos to fit the application. We consider the T25, but we feel the Turbo that we are considering will be better suited for the little engine.

Does it come with oil feed/return line?
It will be a kit, it will include everything that you will need to install.

2. Maverik Motorsports Manifold & downpipe... does it come with all needed Gaskets and what size is the downpipe?
The MAVRIK Motorsport Turbo kit is a "kit", it will include everything that you need to install it. It will come with all the needed gaskets and parts. Still working out the details of the "kit". The stock engine has a pretty good size exhaust pipe for the size of the engine. For the stage I, kit it will be a direct bolt in.

3. What kind of fuel management system? is it programmable?
Still working on that. It will not be programmable. It will be preprogrammed. I don't need any of you blowing up.

4. What kind of computer? Is it going to be a piggy-back on the stock ECU or is it a replacement to the stock ECU or just modded stock ECU?
It will be more than likely a piggy-back.

5. Will the new computer removed the Scion xB's top speed 100MPH limitation?
We are considering it, but that is in a different part of the computer. That does not have anything to do with the fuel management, it might be an added cost?

How many people considering the Turbo kit would like to eliminate the 100 mph limiter?

6. What size is the plumbing (circumference) ?
Plumbing for what? Intake? Why do you want to know the circumference? What are you using the circumference for?

7. Which hardware is included?
All needed hardware to put on the Turbo kit, Turbo, Exhaust Manifold, Down pipe, Computer, Intake piping, BOV, gaskets,

8. Does it come with a manual boost controller or electronic boost controller?
What's the stock boost and what's the max boost settings?
No, it does not come with any type of boost controler. The boost will be pre-set. I am building a "reliable" kit. We are working on a bored and stroked engine that should do approx. 200 WHP. Unless you do intensive internal modifications, you will blow up the engine!

9. Any pictures of the complete turbo kit including all hardware?
Sorry, not as of yet. Still working on it. Hang in there. As soon as I get it done you guys will be the first to see it.

teddy

R210K

the kit will probably come with a t25 or something small and might have a boost level somewhere around 5-7 psi. i am just making assumptions, but that would be my best guess.

Yes, those are all very good guesses. We have found a better Turbo than the T25. Looking at the availablity/price.

teddy

R210K

so $2499 is for stage 1 without intercooler?

Yes, no intercooler. The added piping will hurt you more than it will help you. I know everyone wants the look, though. I think we have an alternative, but unfortunately for that price that is for stage I.

teddy

R210K

Anybody know if that kit will be getting a CARB EO?

I would like to, but it is an incrediable added cost.

teddy

R210K

has spy said anything about the reliability of the kit? It looks like the will out about 135-150 hp, but i wonder if that is to the wheels or not.

Thanks, V! Yes, it will be reliable. It will be in that range, at the wheels. WHP is real HP.

teddy

scionara

Plumbing for What? Your ad mentioned about plumbing and I'm assuming it's the intake piping. I wanted to know the size in cicumference so I know what I'm buying. For example, when I want to buy a turbo back exhaust system, I always want to know the circumference of the piping which is 2.5 inch or 3 inch and so on.

Below is a portion your turbo kin ad.

Garret Turbo, Maverik Motorsports Manifold & downpipe, fuel management system,
computer, plumbing & hardware.

SoCalbBox

R210K

1.Not clear on what turbo you are looking at. Compressor maps available? lb/hr?

2.DP size is important

3.Not a good idea. All the power is in the tuning.

4.Piggy back is fine.

5.Shouldn't make that an added cost.

6.IC piping is important as well. Depends on end tanks on IC and what size turbo you run.

7.Don't see a wastegate in there.

8.Boost more than likely you will set with wastegate on the turbo if you don't want people messing with the boost.

The best thing would be to convert MAF to MAP.

From the info you have provided I'd say you must be far off from this getting into production, or you haven't provided all the info on the the "kit".

SoCalbBox

Unless you are running alcohol you are clearly mistaken. 99% of all OEM cars that come with a turbo have intercoolers, mostly side mounts (Saab, Supra, Eclipse). Now more than ever they going to the front mount (lancer, Srt-4). The IC will keep detonation down and allow safer boost at extended periods.

Now if you are offering alcohol injection with PCI's for 2500 then its a good deal, but I doubt that.