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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 02:35 AM
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Default TRD Final Drive 4.0 or 3.77

I am thinking of getting for 4.0 or 3.77 since I'm tired of my car (xB) sounding like it's going to explode on the freeway.

If anyone has the 4.0 or 3.77, can you post specs on your gears and speed at 3000rpm.

namely:
4th gear - 3000rpm = ___?___mph
5th gear - 3000rpm = ___?___mph

I ususally drive about 70 right now at 3500rpm and would like to get it down to around 3000rpm or below would be nice.

Also what would the cost be?


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I figure I'll give this a shot before I decide on selling in about a year. I love the car's handling, size, & looks but the noise at higher speeds truely gives me a splitting headache.


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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 05:55 AM
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Test drive a used Toyota Echo manual.

Same engine and tranny gearing with 3.526:1 final drive.
Old Mar 18, 2007 | 06:04 AM
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what's the xa/xb final drive?
Old Mar 18, 2007 | 07:33 AM
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4.31
Old Mar 18, 2007 | 05:16 PM
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holy **** is it really that short. I would love to get an echo tranny how hard would it be to swap? Has anyone looked into this or completed it before? What years of the echo are the same? I am guess 2000+?
Old Mar 18, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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Thanks I'll give it a go.

Anyone know how expensive a new final drive would be?


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Test drive a used Toyota Echo manual.

Same engine and tranny gearing with 3.526:1 final drive.
Old Mar 18, 2007 | 11:16 PM
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i like how its set up higher the rpms closer to the peak power band i am game for that!
Old Mar 18, 2007 | 11:39 PM
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i'd rather have a taller 4th and 5th gear like a .75 fifth then a taller r&p
does anyone have the individual gear ratios per a gear on the echo vs xb
Old Mar 19, 2007 | 03:05 AM
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Xb and ECHO
(1st) 3.55
(2nd) 1.90
(3rd) 1.31
(4th) .97
(5th) .82
(reverse) 3.25

They're the same
Old Mar 19, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 11:44 AM
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good luck, keep the toaster
Old Mar 19, 2007 | 04:17 PM
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FYI, if you go to cars.com under their research section, you can pull up alot of Specs about the car
Old Mar 19, 2007 | 04:53 PM
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thanks for the heads up on the cars.com info :thumbsup:
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No Prob!
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 01:55 AM
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I believe the xB is based on the 2003-2005 Echo chassis but any year would probably fit for swapping final drive.

No idea how much it would cost. Probably expensive for a shop to do all of it. Can you pull a transaxle yourself?

A test drive makes sense, might not like the lack of uumph with higher gearing.
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